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Questionable/Explicit TemplatesEdit

Hello Rachinaf =),

I'm not sure if you've been following it, but someone made Questionable and Explicit templates. Because I wanted to make sure that everyone has a say in it, I started a poll here. Based on the votes right now (Yes: 5, No: 7), I'm thinking of not using the templates, but I want to make sure that you're also in okay with this since you're also an admin. Also, if we decide to not use the templates, should we remove them or keep them?

Have a nice day ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 12:30, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

Hello again,

No need to apologize for anything. I'm glad that you're back =).

The templates are not official or obligatory, they're from NFS World Wiki and the user who made them got the templates from there (a bit modified, of course).

I've decided to re-open the forum thread, since I'm kind of at a loss what to do since some people think we should use them and others think we don't. I don't like making the decision between using them and not using them, since it would mean that one party probably gets disappointed. I've added more information to the post this time and I've also added more polls, which means that it will be a bit easier to make sure that everyone is happy with the decision. Thank you for your reply and input.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 09:17, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Hi. About the view count thing, I really don't care about that. I will be leaving this site eventually, so please refrain from leaving messages on my Message Wall. Thank you and have a nice day.

Coxal15 (talk) 22:01, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

神様∴ApplicationEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

Could you maybe make the romaji for 神様∴Application? I've found the Japanese lyrics, but I don't have this album and I'm not confident with making romaji when I can't listen to the actual song.

Amandelen (talk) 08:05, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

No problem. Mistakes happen. Thank you very much ^^.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 08:23, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

RequestsEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

I read your comment on the request thread and made a new rule ("If the song or video contains gore or explicit content, please leave a warning"). I hope the song didn't upset you too much and that you'll feel better soon

I hope you'll still have a nice day ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 18:24, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

Hey,

I'm glad that you're okay. Also, no need to apologize. If something I don't want to see would get shoved in my face suddenly I would probably react in the same way, so I don't think you overreacted.

Amandelen (talk) 08:49, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

勿忘草Edit

Hey,

I've asked ElectricRaichu about it, here's his reply:
"The kanji looks like 姫 hime, KI, "princess" to me. I'm not sure how it makes sense in context though. I did a search on a kanji app I have and the next closest I could find were 嫗 姙 娵." (You can also find the message under "勿忘草" on my talk page)
So the kanji is probably 姫.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 08:49, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re: 175.142.95.34Edit

Hello,

I would have done the same. They were obviously vandalizing the page and not trying to make constructive edits, so blocking them is really the only good way to go, especially if they won't stop after getting a warning.

Amandelen (talk) 14:44, July 24, 2016 (UTC)


Hey,

Thanks for the reply. I personally would have done the same if I was a member of staff. Thank you (both you and Amandelen) for all of your hard work on this Wiki! ~<3

TooPointOhh (talk) 20:09, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re: BirthdayEdit

Hey,

Thank you very much ^^. I hope you also have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 10:23, August 6, 2016 (UTC)

シュガーレス・プリンセスEdit

Hey,

I've found the kanji which you were looking for. I've posted it in your sandbox since it ended up being too long to post here (I hope you don't mind). I wasn't sure at which point I had to stop, so I kind of ended up transcribing everything. I hope you don't mind. I'm fairly certain it's correct, but you might want to double-check just in case. I hope this helps a bit ^^.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 12:42, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Hello, could you lock this page: http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E6%82%8B%E6%B0%97%E3%81%AA%E6%83%91%E6%98%9F_(Rinki_na_Wakusei)

from non-logged in users b/c of vandalism? (Or ban the IP who's messing with the edits?)

~Raine

RequestsEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

I'd like to change how we handle the requests. Instead of having one big list with max twenty requests, I'd like to propose making two lists, one for you and one for me. By doing this, we can both regulate separately how many requests we want to do. This would allow us to set our own limits for requests per day. For example: This could be the normal situation:

Request ListsEdit

Rachinaf Amandelen
1. 1.
2. 2.
3. 3.
4. 4.
5. 5.

If I have more time on my hands, I could make my list a bit bigger:

Request ListsEdit

Rachinaf Amandelen
1. 1.
2. 2.
3. 3.
4. 4.
5. 5.
6.
7.

If I have exams, I could close my list completely:

Request ListsEdit

Rachinaf Amandelen
1. Closed
2.
3.
4.
5.

Another perk of doing this could be that we can make separate rules per person. For example:

Personal RulesEdit

Rachinaf

  • I won't do:
  • Chinese pages
  • Korean pages
  • I will not transcribe more than x requests per week (current count: )
  • etc.

Amandelen

  • I won't do:
  • Korean pages
  • Album only songs
  • I will not transcribe more than 2 requests per week (current count: )
  • etc.

(These are just examples of rules. You do not have to use these rules at all).

If we do make separate rules, we'll both separately have to decide about these rules:

  • Not more than 20 requests on the list at the time. This is to make sure that we still have time to work on our own to-do list. If the list stays full for longer periods of time even though we fulfil requests every day, we might have to reduce this number.
  • Not more than 2 requests where the lyrics need to be transcribed. Transcribing lyrics takes a lot of time (at least two times as long as a normal page) and will therefore delay other requests, which is why we accept less of these requests.
  • While it is not prohibited, we do urge you to not requests album only songs. There are various reasons for this. First of all the YouTube links which will probably be provided are unauthorized copies of the song and as a wiki we can not and will not support these illegal activities. Secondly not all songs which only appear on an album have lyrics typed out anywhere, and we can't make a page without the lyrics. Lastly, we might not have access to the song itself due to not having the album, which prevents us from checking the lyrics we do have (machine translators make a lot of mistakes, and without the song we can't be sure that we corrected all these errors).

If we do this, I'll also remove these rules from the list as they will be unnecessary:

  • Not more than 20 requests on the list at the time. This is to make sure that we still have time to work on our own to-do list. If the list stays full for longer periods of time even though we fulfil requests every day, we might have to reduce this number.
  • We will probably remove older comments to make sure the comment section won't get too full. (this one is already unnecessary but I haven't removed it until now)
  • If one person requests a lot of songs in a short amount of time, the number of requests they can add per day will be limited. We like it that you are eager to request songs, but we also want to give other people a chance to request songs. (“A lot of songs in a short amount of time” means: asking for more than 10 pages per week for at least a month). If this number is limited, they will be notified on their talk page. If they ignore this notification and request more songs than they are allowed to anyway, we will ignore the extra requests.

And the rules mentioned above

As for the requests themselves, they can just be requested just like they are now. The only difference will be that we can kid of "cherry pick" which ones we will do instead of one big list with requests. This is why I'll also add these three rules:

  • If a request is not added to one of the lists after two days, it's been denied. There are different reasons why this can happen.
  • Nobody is able to transcribe the lyrics
  • It has no lyrics on the video or in the description
  • Both our limits for requests are reached
  • There is no one to do the request, because the request is against both of our personal rules
  • If both our lists are full, no more requests will be accepted until a spot is empty again.
  • Please do not direct a request at one particular person. For example: "Amandelen, please do x", or "Rachinaf, please do y".

I have a mock version of the page in my sandbox if you want a see what I mean. Also, if we do decide to do this, PLEASE ignore my personal rules and make your own ones. The whole point is that you do not have to fill in where I lack behind, so take on only the requests that you want to do.

Why I want to do thisEdit

Every year, my life is getting busier and busier. I really want to continue working on the wiki (as it's relaxing to me), but at the same time I do not want to work on the requests all the time (which seems to be happening more often lately, and it often kind of stresses me out orz). I do not want to quit the requests completely, as I like doing it and I do not want to force you to do everything yourself unless I really have to, which is why splitting the list up seems like a good idea to me. It allows us to decide ourselves how many request we do and we will not have to rely on each other to do a request we can't or don't want to do. For example, if there is a request I don't want to do for whatever reason, you do not have to put it on your list if you don't or can't do it either, as both lists are separate and the request hasn't been on any list yet. Also, it will allow us to make rules ourselves instead of having to discuss it with each other if we have a personal rule section.

If you do not want to change the way the requests work right now, that's fine too. But it will probably mean that I'll set limits for myself on how much requests I'll do at a certain point in time to prevent myself from getting stressed out. And that will mean that you'll either have to do more requests per day, or that the list will get very full at times. To me, splitting the list seemed like the better solution because it allows both of us to control our own lists, and one person will not have to cover up for the other one. In the end the choice is yours though, so please leave a message on my talk page with what you think/suggestions etc. Please take all the time you need to answer and think about it. Thank you very much for reading this message =). Have a nice day =D.

Amandelen (talk) 18:26, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

P.S. This is totally unrelated, but your new avatar is so cute! I really like it.

Hello,

Thank you for your fast response =). I'll change the request page in a minute. I'll leave your part of the page blank and closed, so you can edit it once you have your computer again. No need to say sorry for being unable to work on your computer, there is nothing you can do about it. I'll make sure to do most of the request myself, but if I really get into trouble along the way I'll assign you some. Thank you for offering that ^^. My essay is going well too! I'm pretty confident about it =). Thank you for your encouraging message ^^.

Have a nice day =)

Amandelen (talk) 13:52, August 26, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Rachinaf,

No need to apologize. I can't stress enough how important real life is as opposed to your online life, and I truly think that your real life should always come first. So if something happens that makes you unable to come online, so be it. I totally support you putting your studies first, and I wish you a lot of success with them =). I think opening them again when you have more time would be a good idea, as all your time on here should not be spent making pages for others when you want to make other pages yourself. I was actually thinking of doing something similar later this year. The amount of work I have to do is rather low right now since it's only the beginning of the year, but I suspect that in a few weeks it will be a lot more and I'll probably close the requests for a bit then as well (that's actually why I closed the request this weekend: I got two big assignments which I have to finish this weekend and doing requests would probably distract me too much orz). It's not necessarily that I dislike doing requests, I just dislike doing a lot of them. One or sometimes two per day is fine by me, and if I have a lot of time I don't mind doing more, but doing 5+ per day when I already have lots of other stuff to do kind of bums me out orz. It's kind of stupid, but I can't really do anything about it. I'm in favour of changing it into an idea box, maybe we should rename it to "Suggestions" instead of "Requests"? Lots of things would probably stay the same, just a rule stating that we'll only do suggestions if we want to do them. I'll start changing the rules/wording on the page in a minute (I hope you don't mind me acting before getting a response orz. I normally don't do that, but I thought it would be better to start working on it immediately).

I hope you have a nice day =). I hope your studies go well ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 13:52, September 10, 2016 (UTC)

Hey,

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I'll remove the redirect on the main page in a moment and then remove the page itself since it's not necessary anymore. Thank you for suggesting it.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 06:27, September 29, 2016 (UTC)

http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.77.222.0 This user needs to be blocked/banned from editing pages b/c of vandalism RainySkye (talk) 06:04, September 21, 2016 (UTC)Raine

Re: About FrenchEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

Thank you for wishing me luck ^^. You're French? I didn't know, that's so cool ^^. I've followed French classes for about five years now, so it's really cool to know someone that's actually French (even though it's over the Internet). Thank you very much for offering your help, but you don't have to. Luckily, I have a very good French teacher who helps me (and the other students) with everything. If I ever do need your help, I'll ask you. And again, thank you very much for offering it =). Good luck with your presentations! I'm sure you'll do fantastic ^^.

Have a nice day =D.

Amandelen (talk) 16:42, September 21, 2016 (UTC)


103.196.139.202Edit

(Vandalism) 103.196.139.202 should probably be blocked/banned from making edits RainySkye (talk) 05:42, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

This is not the first time he/she has done this... This was also done on the pages 嗚呼、素晴らしきニャン生 (Aa, Subarashiki Nyansei) and おこちゃま戦争 (Okochama Sensou) as well as Always Be ^o^ today.

TooPointOhh (talk) 22:17, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

Request for AdminshipEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

A user recently approached me because he wanted to become an admin. Another admin does seem like a good idea to me, since this wiki is growing pretty fast and we're currently the only active ones. I was wondering if you feel the same way: are you OK with other users becoming admins? The user (and any other user, really) can make a request for adminship and the other users (including us) can vote, so it's not like you have to agree that this user can become an admin, just that a user can become an admin.

Thank you for reading this message. Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 09:34, October 18, 2016 (UTC)

​細菌汚染(高画質)(Saikin Osen (Kōgashitsu))Edit

Helloooo~~! Rachinraf. Thank you for telling me you deleted my page (I was freaking out because I couldn't find it...), but there is a problem with your reasoning. This is your message:

...

Hello, and welcome !
I'm Rachinaf, an admin. I deleted you "細菌汚染(高画質)(Saikin Osen (Kōgashitsu))", since 細菌汚染 (Saikin Osen) already exists. The two version of the song are the same, "高画質" means the quality of the video was enhanced. I hope you understand.
Don't hesitate to ask me or Amandelen if you have any question.
Have a good day !

Rachinaf (talk) 08:54, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

...

I underlined the incorrect reasoning, that's what I mean to focus on. It is true that the video quality is higher now, and it's true that there was different tuning and a new arrangment to this PV. But I wouldn't make a page to this song if the lyrics were the same. ​If you had compared the two pages, 細菌汚染 (Saikin Osen) and 細菌汚染(高画質)(Saikin Osen (Kōgashitsu))​, you would have seen that in the description to 細菌汚染(高画質)(Saikin Osen (Kōgashitsu)​, I said it was a Re-Write. Only in certain places, but still a Re-Write. If you compare the original videos, you will not only see differences in the kana and kanji subtitles at the bottom right of the page, but you will in fact hear differences in the lyrics Hatsune Miku sings for both songs. There is even a video that has romaji subtitles at the top for the higher resolution video. I know the title says "High Resolution" but even though the songs are the same, they are both different in their own ways. I wanted to make a page on this song, not only because not many people know about this video, but not many people listened and realized that the lyrics were different in certain areas, believing its just a new arrangment, or that the song was reversed. I made the page so people could tell the difference between the songs, but it got deleted for the belief that they was the same (I'm sorry if I sound mad, I'm just kind of new to making wikia pages and I'm getting frustrated at how many times I did something wrong, not your fault at all.). I would really like if you could re-upload my page, I really don't think i can go through the process of writing the kana and kanji (really difficult kanji at that) through google translate, listening closely for syllables that are sung by Miku, but not stated in the lyrics, listening in for moments when she says something opposite to the kanji in the lyrics, and creating the notes so people would understand why I put stars next to those instances. So please respond as soon as you can and please re-upload my wikia page, and I'll try to put in something on the page that may re-direct them to 細菌汚染 (Saikin Osen) if that's where theyh meant to go. Thank you for your time <3.

Mehrani-P (talk) 20:07, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for butting in, but since it has different lyrics but is basically a remix of the original it belongs on the page of the original song. It shouldn't have a new page as it's not an entirely new song.

Amandelen (talk) 20:20, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Re: 大嫌いなはずだった。 (Daikirai na Hazu Datta.)Edit

Hey Rachinaf,

I haven't asked Damesukekun to check the translation yet, I'll do it now.

It's nice to hear that you'll be more active. If I need help, I'll be sure to ask you ^^.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 17:50, December 19, 2016 (UTC)


Re: ForumEdit

Happy New Year =). I hope that you'll have a fantastic year ^^.

I agree that they seem like spam. I'll delete the obvious spam and close some of the older threads to avoid those being spammed by the user. If they do it again I'll give them a warning. I also noticed that most replies seem really random and weird. They don't really seem to be about the discussion at all and often times I can't even understand what they're trying to say even though I should be fluent in English by now, so you're definitely not the only one. Oops totally forgot about the adminship request orz. Thank you for bringing it up. I'll highlight the thread one more time and see where it goes from there. We should also probably close it soon since they are apparently only supposed to go on for about a week and ours has been going on for two months... They are supposed to be closed by a bureaucrat, but the most active bureaucrat hasn't answered yet (and I don't think she will soon) so maybe we can just close it?

Have a nice day ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 14:43, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

i'm confusedEdit

excuse me Do i ask u something, oh,i was a creat this page. i dont understand so much that about "move log" this page is deleted or something?

plz tell me to my talk page. thank you so much.

although, i'm a newbie about learning to use this wiki, if i presume is wrong. i'm sorry

KHTunaZCG (talk) 15:04, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, i dont notice it. thank you for your edited

KHTunaZCG (talk) 17:00, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

VandalismEdit

User:Hey,_I%27m_a_Potato! vandalized Smoke and Mirrors' page ~Raine

168.169.226.150 seems to be messing with a page too ~Raine

Change "Burusukeffuto" to "Bruschetta51"?Edit

I'm wondering where you got the name Burusukeffuto (Burusukeffuto songs list). The name in romaji would be Burusuketta. Was it different in the past? In any case, he consistently seems to use Bruschetta51 (see twitter, youtube, piapro) so do you think we should change it to that? ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:53, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Bruschetta51 with a redirect from Burusuketta sounds good to me too. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:33, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Oops forgot to say, hope you get well soon! ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:34, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Hello!

I'm sorry about the picture ^^; Thank you for letting me know, I'll be more careful next time!

Uomih (talk) 08:51, April 1, 2017 (UTC)Uomih

Re: Piapro ImagesEdit

Hello,

I think both images are suitable, since the images basically mean the same thing: there is no other image available. The only difference is that Mikushadow.png is originally used on piapro. If I had to choose, I think Mikushadow.png would be better to use to differentiate the pages with songs from piapro from pages with links to other websites with no images (so basically what you already said), but it doesn't really matter that much I think.

Thank you for your words of encouragement! I'll be sure to do my best =). I'll also be a lot more active again after my finals, since my holiday starts after my finals.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 10:11, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/201.6.142.41 Vandalism by this user 

Re: Search barEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

It doesn't seem to work for me either, not even on VOCALOID wiki or UTAU lyrics wiki. It might have something to do with a recent update, since it worked fine before, but since I can't see everything they changed I'm not sure.

Thank you for wishing me good luck. Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 11:36, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the update! I'm glad that they're working on fixing it.

Have a nice day ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 08:58, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Problems with NNDEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

I noticed you said that you have trouble with NND these days, and I encountered the same problem. However, accessing NND through VocaDB instead of Hatsune Miku Wiki has worked for me. Hopefully that works for you too!

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 09:27, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

I always have trouble with NND. I can only play videos on the site. I can't play them from VocaDB or piapro. My ability to upload is patchy too. Maybe they change their software and they don't test compatibility with all browsers. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:56, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Well what I meant with "accessing NND through VocaDB" is that you click the link to NND on VocaDB. When I try to access NND through Hatsune Miku Wiki the website won't load. I agree that it's probably due to the software change, though.

Amandelen (talk) 06:37, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Re: AbsenceEdit

Hey Rachinaf,

No need to apologise; I totally get it. I'm also a lot busier nowadays due to studies. I hope yours are going well! I've been thinking of maybe nominating someone to become an admin, so I'll look into the process and do it soon. I'm glad you suggested it. I am able to largely handle it on my own right now, though (and most contributors are really helpful too!), so you don't need to worry during that time. I'm glad you'll stick around for a bit, though.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 18:19, November 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re: WintermintPEdit

Hey,

I'm super glad to hear from you again! I'm doing well. I hope you're also doing well =). I'll be sure to add WintermintP's remaining songs soon. I'll also add colour to Electo City. Thank you for telling me they requested it. I hope you have a nice day =). Amandelen (talk) 21:13, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

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