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There's an invitation on the front page and in the sidebar of song/album/etc. articles.

@Lunari162 Excellent point. I've added that to the front page.

I know what the usernames of the original staff member and the one who replied to the ticket are, but I'm not naming them because I don't want to create a brigade by accident.

Update. To quote the second staff member who responded eventually to the Fandom Support ticket:

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"I'm sorry this has been such a worrying time for the wiki. We want to find the right path between letting you do what you do best, and keeping the site as clear as possible of copyright issues.

We've recently been reviewing some pages, and that has meant us removing lyrics on some pages. Basically if a page is selected for review, we have to remove any lyrics (or other content) that appears to be a copyright infringement.

But there is a path forward! It seems many of the artists you highlight are independent. So you may be able to get permission from them to feature their music. Then you can put a note on the pages that says something like 'lyrics used with permission', which will mean that we won't delete them.

For big music company lyrics, ie ones published by a actual music publisher, if we remove the lyrics, they would need to be replaced by a link to a licensed lyrics site - unless you could actually get the publisher to give you permission (very unlikely because they sell licenses to people who want to use their lyrics).

In both cases, we aren't hunting for violations, we just have to act if we are reviewing pages or images and come across them. And we aren't out to close the wiki, but this does mean that the wiki will need to change its methods somewhat.

I've talked this over with [original staff member], so we are in sync."

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For various reasons, contacting each individual producer whose work is hosted on the wiki would range from difficult to, in some cases, impossible. We also don't know why these four songs were "selected for review," especially considering (as mentioned) one of the producers explicitly did not file a copyright claim.

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Sorry, I was responding to AngelChu's message about fair use, but by the time I hit submit on the reply, you'd already responded.

I believe the argument against fair use in this case would be that while we are making no money off of the lyrics, Fandom is running ads on the site. I am not an expert, though, so I don't know what arguments Fandom will or will not make. The policy "cited" by the staff member brings up copyright in a manner tangential to the actual subject, with little detail.

Like I said, I tried contacting Fandom Support three days ago and received no response. This suggests one of two things: 1) they're having some sort of internal discussion or 2) Fandom considers the staff member's lacking response to be sufficient. Technically it hasn't been 72 business hours yet, since it's the weekend, so I suppose we'll find out which one it is on Monday.

As are we. Violet asked this staff member if this would affect all our song pages; he said it should; I asked why this problem was never brought up by any of the multiple staff members we've been in contact with before; then the lyrics were restored. So I can't really tell you whether Fandom is allowed to host lyrics because the staff's behavior on the matter has been inconsistent.

@ILOVEFERUMIKAIPA

The songs (whose lyrics have all been restored "for the time being") are cutting myself, KAI KAI★Crazy Exciting Night, Kawaisou Mofumofu, and Zako.

I want to emphasize that we have no idea why those four songs were chosen other than those being "the songs [the staff member] received notice on." They do not share a producer or record label. The staff member claimed that most or all of our lyrics cannot be hosted, so we don't think the specific songs or their content have anything to do with the issue.

@Mayystxrrrr

I don't know if VOCALOID Wiki is dealing with anything similar, as I don't edit there.

Maybe 世界 is being personified, since it's also doing 見てる? That's the best guess I've got.

I think with the ねぇ, it makes more sense for the speaker to be speaking to someone else, so your revision works.

Yes, it goes above the Reflist template or the "<references />." You should see an example on the page currently.

I'm glad if I was able to help!

Based on the spacing, are you sure the first line isn't a flipped 僕見てる世界がいないの? I just don't think I've ever seen a part moved to the end from between words as いないの世界が僕見てる would require.

Maybe this is too much of a stretch, but given the next line, could the "it" being measured be "our lives" or something like that?

Isn't 欲しがる (in ねぇ今更欲しがりはしないよ) usually referring to other people?

I think 止めてみたよ is the thing being thought about, but I'm not wholly sure either.

(Also, in future, when you have translation notes, can you please add a "Translation Notes" section to the page with either the Reflist template or "<references />"?)

Additionally (and non-exhaustively):

• Ai Kotoba series (DECO*27)

• Bless Your Breath (Wada Takeaki)

• Cat Food (doriko)

• COLOR COPY (niki)

• Confession Sensation (Live-P)

• Dance Robot Dance (Nayutan Seijin)

• Detour-tour (EZFG)

• Dreamin Chuchu (emon(Tes.))

• Empress (Teniwoha)

• Fairytale, (BuzzG)

• Happy Ending That No-one Knows About (40mP)

• Hatsune Creation Myth (cosMo)

• HEXL (Loin)

• I'm Glad You're Evil Too (Pinocchio-P)

• I'm Not Your Own Child Anyways (Sr)

• I'm Only Just Getting Started (Nashimoto Ui)

• Ladies First (OSTER project)

• Machine Love (Jamie Paige)

• Melt (ryo)

• MikuFiesta (AlexTrip Sands)

• Nekosogi-Matter-Bop (sasakure.UK)

• Order Made (Kasamura Tota)

• Pierrot (KEI)

• Planetes (seiza)

• Poka Poka Planet (Harumaki Gohan)

• Prism (Mel)

• Returner of the Beginning's Colors (nyanyannya)

• ROKI (mikitoP)

• Scissorhands (Nem)

• Seven-Colored Morning (Wato)

• Shirley!! (iroha(sasaki))

• Someday in That Summer (*Luna)

• SPiCa (TokuP)

• Stella (KotsubanP)

• Sugar Guitar (Police Piccadilly)

• Surges (Orangestar)

• The Bubble Future (Kaga)

• The Pocket Galaxy (yukkedoluce)

• Viva Happy (Mitchie M)

• Warm Kaito (halyosy)

• Will you marry me? (Yairi)

I've deleted the page.

I removed the content label because it might have confused people otherwise why there was a "Suggestive" song sung by Yuki if we decided to keep it.

The lines D童 T貞な人の MUSIC (童貞 is calling the listener/producer a virgin) and possibly ビリビリしてるわよ? (ビリビリ is an onomatopoeia used for electric shocks, which seems more suspect when combined with Rion's "Don't put that kind of thing in!" line), along with the general theming of the song, were what made me reach that conclusion.

I think it's borderline, so I would appreciate others' input, but I think a couple of the lines sung by Yuki tip it over into deletion territory. I'll delete it tomorrow unless anyone objects.

This blog post is where you should submit the translation.

@AngelChu No, we don't have to censor swear words, it's just not practical to try and uncensor all of the ones that have already been censored on older pages.

No, the drama with the singer was a separate incident that happened years before Hazuki no Yume asked for the translations to be removed. What happened was that on their second channel, HnY and TheBlackCero did a subbed reprint of this song, which was a tribute to wowaka, without permission. Kaja asked them to take the video down.

They instead made a livestream where they dramatically announced that they were taking the entire channel down in an attempt to get people to beg them not to. Either in the livestream or in YouTube comments (apologies for the fuzziness, it's been a few years and most of this is deleted), they claimed that it was actually beneficial to the producers that they were reprinting songs that were already officially available on YouTube without permission, since "exposure," and also this is what wowaka would have wanted. (Edit: missing word.)

People responded negatively to those claims, and so the request for removal was basically HnY's attempt to "get back at" the fandom.

"Gulp down that sweet syrup."