User talk:Damesukekun

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Vocaloid Lyrics Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Aku no Meshitsukai page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Esperancia (Talk) 18:39, November 29, 2011

Translation
Hi, I tweaked the translation to Cryogenic after you amended it. Please have a look and see what you think. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:17, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Your correction made the translation much more fluent. Damesukekun (talk) 13:34, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad you're happy with it. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:44, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Panda Virus
I'm trying to translate “Panda” virus, but I can't understand some phrases. Tasukete kuremasen ka? Thanks in advance for any help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:20, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * 舌なめずりを自重 ... 「じちょう」って、自分を重んじるとか大事にするとかじゃありませんか. I don't understand what it means here.
 * 知らないままの君じゃない ... さっぱりわかりません. Does 「じゃない」 mean "is not", or does it mean "isn't it?" i.e. "of course it is"?
 * 報酬金 ... refers to some kind of payment, right? I'm not sure in context what it's talking about.


 * 自重: 自重 has two usages. One is "to take care of oneself" and the other is "to be prudent" or "to refrain from doing something". In this case the latter usage (to refrain from doing something) is right.
 * 知らないままの君じゃない: this sentence is very confusing, but judging from the context "You are no longer who I don't know" or so.
 * 報奨金: it means "reward". This refers to the preceding sentence 一度頼まれた仕事は　死んででも遂げよう.
 * Damesukekun (talk) 00:01, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply! I have added my translation. If you have time, could you have a look? Maybe 報奨金 "reward" refers to being "Wanted"? Also, I translated 真似はダメだ as (あなたがパンダを)まねてはだめだ, but could it mean (パンダの)行動はだめだ? ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:16, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I checked your translation and re-translated a few lines.
 * 報奨金 sometimes means "reward for information leading to wanted criminal", but in this case simply "reward" seems better.
 * Either あなたがパンダをまねてはだめだ　or パンダの行動はだめだ is suitable for 真似はダメだ. It's your choice.
 * 舌なめずり is used as a metaphor in this song. It means a state of desire like Tom licking his lips when he catches Jerry.

Damesukekun (talk) 07:37, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I appreciate your help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:46, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Romaji Lyrics from Vocaloid Wiki
Thank you for telling me. I'll make sure to double check the romaji I use.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:39, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

盲目の宇宙飛行士
「盲目の宇宙飛行士」を訳してみました. 単語はほとんどわかりましたが、解釈はちょっと…. 助けてもらえませんか.

If you are able to help in any way, it would be very much appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:52, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * From what I understand, a sighted boy likes a downcast blind girl and attempts to get her to see light. However, he fails and gets disillusioned. He loses sight of something more important, the relationship that has developed between them. But the girl is now happy in spite of her blindness and conveys this to the boy. Do you think this is correct?
 * The lines 少女は知らない, 少年は忘れた, 二人は知った do not say what was unknown/forgotten/discovered. Is there a way to understand the unspecified 目的語 from the text of the song?
 * I am not very familiar with 躍起になる. My translation is a bit of a guess ...


 * About the lyrics. The boy literally lost sight in the end of the story, but the disabled two became happy because they finally found a new light - love between them.
 * 少女は　知らない is 少女は　光咲く　夜空も 知らない, so "The girl doesn't know them" seems fine.
 * I'm not fully sure of the sentence 少年は　忘れた either, but the boy started to lose sight at this point, so 少年は　あんなに光っているのに　届かないのか 忘れた "The boy doesn't know it" seems fine.
 * 二人は知った is 二人は それでも光が　そばにいることを 知った (anastrophe), so your translation is correct.
 * There is no corresponding word in English for 躍起になる, but it conveys the idea of making your hardest effort to fulfill your aim. (Reference).
 * I checked your translations and redid a few lines. Damesukekun (talk) 12:04, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

そうですか. ほろ苦いですね. コメント、訂正、ありがとうございました.

FYI I had a look here for 躍起 and it suggests a feeling of 焦る or 必死, so the closest English words might be "frantic" or "bent on" or "vehement". (I had already looked at ALC but I didn't find it helpful this time.)

Your wording "forgets to make smiles" sounds a bit awkward in English so I'll change it to "forgets how to smile". ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:14, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Mr.ブギーメン
Hi, it's me again. おじゃまします.

I had a go at Mr.ブギーメン, but I'm not sure what 捨てて means in verse 5. It doesn't seem to fit the sentence. Would you be able to give me your opinion?

Also, 誰にも届かない occurs twice, but the meaning seems to be different: Do you think that's correct? ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:48, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 誰にも届かない場所へ私を連れて = unreachable by anyone (?)
 * そんな声じゃ誰にも届かない = unreachable to anyone (?)


 * やたら増えた独り言は　欲望に塗れて捨てて is ungrammatical and weird. The point is the girl threw away her murmurs. I slightly changed your translation.
 * にも in both sentences indicates stressed objects. に (object indicator in this case) + も (emphasize in this case). English by and to are object indicators and the both are acceptable depending on the context. English and Japanese are very different languages one another. A Japanese word can't simply be converted to an English word. Damesukekun (talk) 14:22, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

About に, thanks for the explanation. I understand it can indicate both agent (by) and destination (to). I just wanted to make sure I understood these lines properly, because using に as agent with a simple intransitive verb (i.e., not passive or potential transitive verb) seemed unusual.

I am glad you said that 塗れて捨てて is ungrammatical because I was struggling to understand it. So the girl discarded her own 独り言? OK thank you. Um ... I'm afraid your English translation is hard to follow, but I will need to think a while about how to improve it. The construction is very different to how we express things in English.

Thanks again for your help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:25, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Romaji Transliterations
I'll make sure to provide a tutorial as soon as I can. And I'll also make sure that Vanderheld isn't used as a source anymore.

Could I also ask a quick question? I've seen you transliterate には as "niwa" while others transliterate (from whom I know don't use machine translations) it as "ni wa". Is it supposed to be compound or could it be transliterated as both? Sorry if the question is bothering you. I just wanted to make sure orz.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:12, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for double posting. I just wanted to tell you that I updated the Song Article Guideline to feature the tutorial. I'm also working on making a pop-up to remind users that they shouldn't use direct machine transliterations (ElectricRaichu's idea). Just thought you should know =).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:22, August 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I added info about Korean transliteration. Damesukekun (talk) 04:27, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

About the practice for capitalizing katakana in romaji, maybe you can suggest something like the following in the guidelines.


 * "If a word not normally written in katakana has been written in katakana, and if you believe that this conveys something significant, then you can put the romaji in italics, not in capitals."

What do you think? Providing an alternative sometimes works better than telling people to stop. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:36, September 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Recently not a few Vocaloid musicians overuse katakana in wrong ways. I don't know why but it seems they think katakana looks "cool". Their katakana words such as キミ or アナタ don't always mean emphasis. It's difficult even for native speakers to tell which katakana words suggest significance and which don't. So I personally think it's better to stop using katakana-capital or katakana-italic transliteration for the time being. Damesukekun (talk) 05:31, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

そうですね. リョウカイします！ ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:11, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Hand in Hand subtitled video
Hi, I've translated your "Hand in Hand" 's lyrics in Italian and I'm currently working on an Italian-subbed version. Also, there aren't English-subbed versions on YouTube and I want to post your translation! Obviously, I'll credit you! :)

愛言葉
こんにちは、ライチュウです. I translated 愛言葉 (Ai Kotoba) a few weeks ago but I have a few unresolved issues. If you have time to help with any of them it would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:18, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) verse 2, このご恩を一生で忘れないうちに
 * 2) *ご恩を一生で忘れない means "I will never forget"
 * 3) *忘れないうちに normally means "before I forget", which suggests she might forget, right?
 * 4) *Since they contradict, I translated うち literally, "during [my whole life]".
 * 5) verse 5, 一生で限られた時間で生まれる
 * 6) *What does で indicate? I would say ...時間に生まれる and that's how I've translated it.
 * 7) last verse, 僕からたくさんの君への愛言葉
 * 8) *I missing anything that can resolve whether たくさんの applies to 君 or to 愛言葉, or is it up to the listener's interpretation?
 * 9) *Normally 君 is singular so I've translated it that way, but in the context of the song it could refer to all her listeners.
 * The lyrics have many rhetorical modifiers that sounds redundant to English speakers. I'll check your translation later. Damesukekun (talk) 15:32, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it up! ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:40, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

サボテンのきもち
I tried translating サボテンのきもち but it's harder than it first looked! Do you have any idea what ちいさいこともつみかさねたら and いやなことだらけつみかさねたら might be referring to? Also, I've translated サボってんなよ as "Don't neglect me!" Do you think that sounds OK? ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:02, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think your interpretation is okay. Didn't you forget "me" on the second line btw? I added it. Damesukekun (talk) 03:44, October 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking it and for fixing the typo. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:19, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

青い自転車に乗って
Hi, I noticed you changed the translation of the title back to "Riding ...". I don't know how "official" it is, but KARENT translates it as "Ride ..." so I changed it to agree. Either way makes sense in English because both "ride" and "riding" can be used as nouns. "Ride" means an instance of "riding". ElectricRaichu (talk) 11:31, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that. Thank you for correction. Damesukekun (talk) 14:48, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * No I meant I changed it in the past. Bu I wanted to check with you first before reverting your change in case you knew something I didn't know or had a better reason. Anyway, if you're fine with the "official" name I'll change it back. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:10, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

こんにちは〜
そして初めましてかな. 前にツイッターでメッセージを送りましたが連絡を取れませんでしたからやっぱり初めましてですね:)

(こちらの日本語に誤ちがあれば(いや、ほぼ必然だと思いますw)すみません. )

御親切な申し出をありがとうございました. 早速ですが質問させていただきます:D

昨日アップした「炎の鳥、群青をゆく. 」のページを見ていただけませんか？

実は今回の翻訳に特に「見よ！」と始まるその部分でちょっと困難がありました. おまけに節が改行してる所をどうにも合わなかったのです. 自分のページに毎列がもっと長かったのでこの問題がありませんでしたが、ここじゃそう出来ないみたいですね.

それでは、よろしくお願いします！

テラ Terracannon876 (talk) 16:24, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for tweaking some of my translations. It was a big help!

2bricacity (talk) 18:43, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I uh ... didn't? Is this meant to be a separate thread for Damesukekun?

Terracannon876 (talk) 21:13, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late reply. I checked your translation and made a slight correction..
 * 引いた弓矢の切先に 想いを託し弾いたなら literally translates as "If (she) puts (her) feelings on the spearhead of the arrow that she drew and releases (it),". I translated it as "Let her draw the bow taut putting prayers on the spearhead (and)".
 * Sentence and paragraph. In this song some sentences go across two paragraphs, so your interpretation is okay. (I personally don't like this confusing writing among amateur Vocaloid lyricists.) Damesukekun (talk) 11:48, October 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * チェックしてくれてありがとうございました :)


 * Don't worry about the late reply.  I've come to realize that I probably live halfway across the world as every admin on this site, and you needed to check the translations, too.


 * That line was difficult simply because the English was always going to be either awkward or a great amount of artistic license would have been needed.  I chose the latter, but yours is more literal.  And thanks for the feedback on the paragraph breaks. :)


 * The mind gap lying between Japanese and English always torments translators. Damesukekun (talk)


 * What do you mean by mind gap?  Did you mean the gap between languages?
 * Terracannon876 (talk) 13:17, October 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Mistake. I meant the gap between Jp and En. Damesukekun (talk) 13:37, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Questions about Ikerenka
I have a couple of queries about Ikerenka. Maybe you can offer some help ... よろしくお願いします. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:28, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) どうも気が乗ってこない -- does that mean "I don't feel like it"? How does どうも change the meaning?
 * 2) ボクを本気にして -- that seems ambiguous to me, "make me serious about you" or "take me seriously". Are both meanings possible, or is there a reason why one of them is correct?
 * 3) 基本一応“出来てる”気分？ -- that must mean "A look over the basics, and I feel it's accomplished", right? But I don't get why it's a question. The translation does not have a question.
 * どうも means どうしても in this case so your interpretation is okay.
 * して in ボクを本気にして in this case is the imperative form of する. You are right.
 * The question mark in 基本一応出来てる気分? is ungrammatical, so you can omit it in the English translation. Damesukekun (talk) 15:31, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. Actually that was one of the more difficult songs to understand ... ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:27, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Yasagurenka translation questions
Hey there! Question about edits I did to Yasagurenka (seeing your Ikerenka comments reminded me I really wanted to edit these lyrics the moment I'd read them a week ago). It's really different having a native Japanese speaker that I can consult with. Thanks for your help last time!
 * I kept the original "English translation by ___" because I worked off his/her translations.  Should this be kept (considering I changed so much)?
 * "Gureru" vs. "Yasagureru" is really interesting to me.  I tried to keep the original translation in this case, though.  Would you say "yasagureru" is more "to sulk" or "to run away from responsibilities (or, to be apathetic and not care)" in this song?
 * The last sentence is 「この壊れそうな想いを一番先に伝えたい」Is this "I want to tell you before I tell anyone else" or "I want to tell you before anyone else tells you?"  I thought it could be interpreted both ways so I kept it vague, but I also feel it's more likely the first one.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot to sign last time!

Terracannon876 (talk) 16:39, October 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you can put your name as the translator since you practically made a new one, but if you want to leave 2bricacity's name, it's okay.
 * やさぐれる sometimes means (or is confused with) ぐれる. My intuition says ぐれる and やさぐれる convey the same idea in this song.
 * この壊れそうな想いを一番先に伝えたい can be read as the both ways you mentioned and sometimes brings confusion to native Japanese speakers too. The interpretation depends on the context. In this case "I want to tell you before I tell anyone else" suits the better than the other. "The horse raced past the barn fell". Damesukekun (talk) 05:25, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Please check my translation
BTW Thanks for the fix to Nagai Yoru ... it was such a silly slip I made ...

Could you please check my translation for Dear that I just uploaded? I'm making a PV for it and I want to make sure I haven't made any similar booboos in the subs.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:28, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't say thanks to me. I'm always learning how to write lyrical English sentences through your translations.
 * I found no mistakes in your Dear translation. Looking for your PV upload. Damesukekun (talk) 13:05, October 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * 優しい言葉、ありがとうございました. 動画を見たいなら、どうぞこちらへ. https://youtu.be/FM9jJn4nMAg ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:21, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Zombie Maker
That was one weird song lol. But it was really short so I was like, "why not?" though I fear I made more trouble for you in the end with all those corrections, haha.

Terracannon876 (talk) 15:21, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, the lyrics are ungrammatical and weird to Jp speakers too. Damesukekun (talk) 02:14, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

ウミユリ海底譚
Hi ! Sorry to bother you, but I think the translation of ウミユリ海底譚 (Umiyuri Kanteitan) is slightly wrong, even though Vervain Subs is on the recommended list.

The sentence that hit me the most is 海の底　息を飲み干す夢を見た "I saw a dream of drinking up the bottom of the sea in one breath", isn't it supposed to be something like : "In the bottom of the sea, I dreamt of breathing [a lot]" ?

There's also : 海中列車に遠のいた / 涙なんて　なんて "You were receding in a mid-sea train / As for tears, there's no way, no way". I don't understand how/why なんて becomes a negation.

And 「なんて」 is just translated "How", which is a bit weird for me.

Sorry if those are dumb remarks/questions and for my bad english, thank you in advance !

Rachinaf (talk) 16:49, November 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Excuse me for coming in ... I think なんて can indicate something that shouldn't be that way, e.g., it's surprising, or wrong, or unbelievable. So 涙なんて can mean "how can there be tears!", or putting it more explicitly, "there should not be tears".
 * As for 「なんて」 on its own can be any exclamation "What!?" "How!?" "Why!?" depending on context. I'd have to understand the lyrics well to suggest how to translate it. It's possible the translator confused なんて with なんで, but also possible that the translation is correct.
 * But from a quick skim, I could see a few errors:
 * 息を飲み干す surely must mean suck in all your breath. Drinking the entire seaなんて!
 * 眺める means view/gaze/stare, i.e. look at intently or for a long time, not glance, which means look at just for a moment.
 * 空の底 means bottom of the sky, not sky garden. Maybe the translater confused 底 with 庭.
 * ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:30, November 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comments. I corrected the mistakes you pointed out. Damesukekun (talk) 12:55, November 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you, both of you !


 * Rachinaf (talk) 20:37, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Holy Flag
HoneyWork's latest song Holy Flag is very catchy and is looking to be quite popular. I wonder what the background is? I had a go at translating it since viewers on youtube have been asking but I find some parts ambiguous. For example
 * 阻む弓矢投げられる悪意 -- does that mean 僕らを阻もうとする、敵に投げられる矢? Also, it sounds strange to throw bows with the arrows ...
 * 蒼い -- do you know what it signifies? does it literally mean the colour, or perhaps youthfulness?
 * 蒼く燃える証　目を覚ました -- does that mean 僕らの炎が蒼く燃えることの証? How does the sign/proof relate to waking up?

So if you have a chance, could you check/correct it? ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:04, November 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * 阻む弓矢投げられる悪意 becomes 僕らを阻む弓矢、僕らに投げられる悪意 if you restore omitted subjects. "The (bows and) arrows that get in our way, and the malice that is shot to us"
 * 蒼い doesn't have any metaphoric meaning in this case.
 * 蒼く燃える証　目を覚ました literally means "the sign that burns blue awakened". I think "the sign in blue flames starts to move forward" would be fine.
 * Damesukekun (talk) 14:31, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I've amended the translation accordingly. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:57, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

ラウンダバウト
I had a go at translating ラウンダバウト (Roundabout). I would like to make a subtitled video but I have some uncertainties and was hoping you could help. If there is anything else you notice, feel free to advise/amend. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:21, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 君の視線 伸ばした指の先に 気付いた瞬間: Does that mean 君が［僕の］指の先を見るのに［僕が］気付いた瞬間? I'm thinking it might also could be interpreted as ［僕の］伸ばした指の先を［君が］見て気付いた瞬間.
 * 胸が軋んだ: へぇ？
 * 眩しいその瞳が: I presume 瞳 is the subject of 眩しい, do you agree?
 * 心騙し得た幸せ: Does it mean that 僕 deceived himself into feeling happy?
 * The phrase 君の視線～ is very vague to native speakers too, but I support 君が［僕の］指の先を見るのに［僕が］気付いた瞬間.
 * 胸が軋んだ is a metaphoric phrase. You can say either "My chest/heart creaked" or "My chest/heart ached".
 * 眩しい is a modifier rather than a subject in this case. The literal translation is "The moment when those dazzling eyes (of yours) smile, time stopped".
 * 心騙し～. You are right. He deceived himself.

Damesukekun (talk) 15:20, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've amended the translation according to your advice. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:27, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm just subbing this now and I noticed the line 心揺らし溢れ出す感情を / 消せない弱さに声を枯らした. Initially I interpreted it as 心揺らし、感情を溢れ出す. 消せない弱さに声を枯らした. I.e, he is overwhelmed with emotion and he can't eliminate his weakness. But maybe it should be interpreted as ((心揺らし溢れ出す)感情を消せない)弱さ, i.e., his weakness is that he can't eleminate his overwhelming emotions. I think it reads more naturally and makes a more sense. What do you think?

On a separate note, thanks for fixing 魔法の手. I can't believe I had checked it before ... maybe I was tired that day (てれくさいな〜). Anyway, 場面 is actually shiin rather than bamen, so I changed that word back. (永久の命＝一瞬の場面 is an amazing line ... and BTW that song was the first Vocaloid song I ever heard.) ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:25, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

Um please don't forget my question about 感情を / 消せない in ラウンダバウト above. おねがいします ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:45, November 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late reply, I've been very busy IRL.
 * 心揺らし　溢れ出す感情を 消せない弱さに　声を枯らした is a continuous phrase yet is kinda ungrammatical. "(I let(past) my) voice wither by the weakness of not being able to erase (my) feelings that shook (my) heart and poured out" (lit.) or "I was lost for words 'cause I was so weak and couldn't shut off those wavering and pouring feelings." Damesukekun (talk) 15:40, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * やっぱり！ Thank you for clarifying.
 * Please no need to apologize. You're very kind giving us as much help as you do. I just wanted to make sure that you didn't miss the question. ElectricRaichu (talk) 20:16, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Dark Prince Translation
Thank you for your help with my translation. It was an old one, and I haven't had time to fix it, haha.

2bricacity (talk) 16:28, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re: ConstellationRailroad
Don't worry, you're not bothering me. Thank you for telling me, actually. I'll remove them after I've posted this message =).

Amandelen (talk) 15:18, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

デイニー
I'm having trouble understanding 手を繋いでほしかったんだ. Does it mean she wanted him to take her hand, or to hold hands together?

And in the next line はりぼての姿だけど What looked like はりぼて? Was it his hand, her hand, himself, herself?

Also, Do you have any idea what デイニー means? Is it just a name?

Thanks in advance for any explanation you might offer. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:48, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I need to make some research. Give me a few days. Damesukekun (talk)
 * Sorry for this late reply. I couldn't find out what デイニー meant. I added a description about the title.
 * 手を繋いでほしかったんだ means she wanted him to take her hand.
 * 手をつなぎたい. → I want to take your hand.
 * 手をつないでほしい. → I want you to take my hand.
 * はりぼて in this song is used in a metaphoric way. This suggests she was a coward girl though she pretended to be strong. Damesukekun (talk) 13:21, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

Oh OK, thanks for the explanation and for investigating. How do you know that はりぼての姿 refers to the girl and not the guy? Is it just by context (because it makes more sense that way), or is there something grammatical in the sentence that indicates this? ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:41, December 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * You know who the はりぼて is just by the context like other Japanese sentences which seem vague. Unfortunately there is no grammatical clue in this case. Damesukekun (talk) 14:56, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

よつばのクローバー
I noticed you changed my translation for Yotsuba no Clover. Can I please at least be credited for the original translation?Awesomejellystar (talk) 20:50, December 27, 2015 (UTC)awesomejellystar
 * I made a correct translation without referring any of your words. Yours had many grave mistakes that totally overturned the lyrics and I'm sorry but we don't put someone's name who doesn't understand Japanese as a translator. Damesukekun (talk) 11:50, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

終末メモリーズ
ダメスケクンさん、あけましておめでとうございます！

I asked the composer of 終末メモリーズ to clarify what Miku is saying in place of 真実 in verse 6 line 3, and he said, 真実と書いて「こえ」と歌わせてます. 無理やり過ぎですが、大人の事情と言う事で So it's "koe" as I thought, but do you know what 大人の事情 means? (Sorry, I looked it up but I'm not any wiser ...) Do you think the suggestion is that the voice is telling the truth that perhaps she doesn't want to hear? つまり、心のなかに事実を言う声が聞こえるのを暗示すると思いますか. ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:55, January 11, 2016 (UTC) Where do they say 大人の事情? I made some research but I couldn't find the source. 大人の事情 usually means sexual things that are inappropriate for children, but there's no sensual word in the lyrics. The lyrics are very vague and I don't know what 真実―こえ means either, but I think your interpretation is right. Damesukekun (talk) 11:39, January 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late reply. I totally missed this message.

Thanks for the reply and sorry for any confusion. 大人の事情って、歌詞にはありません. 「真実（こえ）」の意味を作曲家に聞きましたが、「無理やり過ぎですが、大人の事情と言う事で」と答えてくれました. I didn't understand his reply very well, but at least your explanation is helpful. I'll go with my current interpretation. ElectricRaichu (talk) 20:48, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

君のトナリ
I had a go at translating 君のトナリ. but I'm a bit unsure about the following: Hopefully my translation is close, but I would like to sub the video, so would you be able to check at least those points? ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:17, January 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * v2. 「えー、そぉかなぁ・・・」なんて ちょっと可愛いじゃない “Yeah, maybe …” you say cutely.
 * v3. 口に出来ない思いを乗せて letting myself feel things I can't put into words.
 * v6. 弾けそうな気持ちを抱えて I think I'm going to burst.
 * Perfect! I love your translating. Damesukekun (talk) 06:36, January 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * どうもありがとうございました. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:56, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Re: About Using Other People's Translations
It's actually in the guidelines already but I'll also put a notice about it on top of the page. I think I'll also just start removing translation if they aren't credited, since like you said they're mostly mistranslations.

Amandelen (talk) 11:17, February 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * I missed the notice, but thank you for the update. Damesukekun (talk) 14:45, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

もういいかい
Hi, sorry to trouble you again, but I have a lot of difficulties with もういいかい. I have a few other uncertainties but they're the main ones. I'd appreciate any help. If you have time, feel free to edit anything that's wrong. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:16, February 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you agree that the sense of "もういいかい" is "am I good enough yet"?
 * 子ども扱いしないで？ is in the form of a request but has a question mark. What do you think that it means?
 * いつになればって I'm guessing a bit here but I translated it "Tell me it'll happen one day." Does that OK?
 * Similarly I translated もしかしたらって as "Tell me it might perhaps happen one day."
 * １引く２０で Doesn't that mean 1 &minus; 20? I'm not sure how to interpret it ...
 * It seems もういいかい is from children's hide-and-seek game.　In the Japanese hide-and-seek, おに "it" asks もういいかい "are you ready?" before starting the game. Hiding children reply もういいよ "we're okay" if they are ready and まあだだよ "not yet" if they are not. もういいかい 「もういいよ」言って conveys the idea that the boy feels he has grown up enough to date with the girl and wants her to say yes.
 * 子ども扱いしないで？ is a misuse of question mark. If you keep or delete the question mark, it's okay.
 * いつになればって literally means " '(the word) when' is". I think "I don't know when you say yes" or something like this would be better.
 * もしかしたらって I think "I don't know if I you might say yes" or so would be fine.
 * １引く２０で is a nonsense phrase on purpose. The author's intention is not clear for me, but your translation is good.

Damesukekun (talk) 08:45, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Oh I see. Thanks so much. I'll take all your helpful comments into consideration! Actually, I think the allusion is to Blind Man's Buff (目隠し鬼) because of 目隠し in the first verse.

「もういっかい」ありがとうございました. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:53, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Damesukekun! I'd like to ask you if Achamo's translation http://www.animelyrics.com/doujin/vocaloid/strobelight.htm or ikuy398's is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sKs7INaEoA better? Wintear (talk) 17:42, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

水際の碧色
In 水際の碧色, GUMI sings "mizugiwa" in the third verse instead of "migiwa", so unless there's another reason, probably the title should agree with the lyrics. If someone might read it as "migiwa", then we should have a redirect from "migiwa" to "mizugiwa". ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:51, February 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * My bad. Corrected the title. Damesukekun (talk) 08:41, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

ツキノウタ
Hi, it's me again. In ツキノウタ, I find the line ツキノウタ　もう君に　聞かせられずに (2nd last verse) confusing. It's so ambiguous. Who is doing the kiku to who/what, who is doing the saseru, is it passive or potential?


 * 1) The existing translation interprets it as 僕が君に歌を聞かせることはできない (君が歌を聞く, 僕がさせる, potential): I can't let you hear the song.

However, in Kid's English version of the song (NB not a literal translation), it says "Won't Sound of Moon let me reach you any more". This is also ambiguous as "reach" could imply "I don't hear you" or "You don't hear me", but it suggests that interpretation 3 is the intended meaning.
 * 1) Another interpretation is 君が僕に歌を聞かさない (僕が歌を聞く, 君がさせる, passive): You don't let me hear the song.
 * 2) Another interpretation is ツキノウタが君に僕を聞かせることはできない (君が僕を聞く, 歌がさせる, potential). The song can't let you hear me.
 * 3) One more I can see is 君がツキノウタに僕を聞かさない but I don't think this makes too much sense: You don't let the song hear me.

On the other hand, what makes most sense to me is that the song is preventing me from hearing you. However, that does not match the possible grammatical interpretations.

Do you have an interpretation or opinion? Have I made a mistake somewhere? Could you please advise? ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:53, March 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * I support Blacksaingrain's interpretation. The full sentence would the most certainly be "（僕が）　ツキノウタ（を）　もう　君に　聞かせられずに". The Japanese language tends to avoid inanimate subjects, so ツキノウタ wouldn't be the subject in this sentence. We often describe this rule as "日本語は無生物主語を嫌う". (However, this phrase has an inanimate subject. What a paradox!)
 * The English version is the English version. As you mentioned, this is not a literal translation so what the English lyrics say doesn't influence the interpretation of original Japanese lyrics. Damesukekun (talk) 04:58, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

OK thank you! That rule is a useful guidline to bear in mind. ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:06, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, it reminds me of an English rule that also contradicts itself: A preposition is not a word to end a sentence with! ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:46, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

∞/Kid-P
Hi, it's me again. おじゃまします.

Someone has asked me to translate the song featured in Kid's latest video, ∞. I had a go, but I'm not sure what is intended by キメ続ける (= 決め続ける ??) in verses 3 and 8, and I'm quite lost with 余裕はミリ成分 in verse 11. If you have any ideas pleas let me know.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:41, March 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * キメる originally means "to take drugs and get high". 薬の効果が現れる(キマる)ように、薬を服用することを意味する語. 転じて大麻など違法な薬物を使用することを意味することがある. In this case Kid-P seems to mean "to an excessive degree" or something like this.
 * ミリ成分 is a recent slang word (but I don't think this word is common among teens yet) meaning very few or little thing(s). One millimeter > very small. Damesukekun (talk) 21:20, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. So 余裕はミリ成分 means 余裕はあまりない? But 何の余裕? I'm having trouble interpreting the verse. Any ideas? ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:41, March 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * When we say just 余裕, it usually means 心の余裕 or 気持ちの余裕, roughly translated as a state of being relaxed. Judging from the context, 余裕はミリ成分 suggests Len's reckless steps toward the future. Damesukekun (talk) 11:40, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:04, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

僕が僕に帰れる場所
I translated the heading of this song as "The Place Where I Can Come Back to Myself", but I just had a look at Niconico, and someone has translated it as "I Am the Place I Come Home To". Since both interpretations are possible, I thought I'd ask you if you had any opinion on which is the most suitable. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:08, March 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * I take your translation. "I am the place I come home to" is a mistranslation. Damesukekun (talk) 22:51, March 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:42, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Satisfaction/kz
Hi, I recently translated Satisfaction/kz (though I did it while not logged in, so it appears as if a wikia contributor did so) but I just want to make absolutely sure that I didn't mess up, and if I did, I am very sorry. Ohjesusohboy (talk) 04:49, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. Checked and updated your translation. Thank you for your contribution. Damesukekun (talk) 07:42, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, I took the liberty of improving some of the English wording, e.g., we don't say "flap with your arms" (that means use your arms to make something else flap!), we just say "flap your arms", and we usually say "look straight ahead" to mean "look only ahead". ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:19, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your correction. I left as many OJOB's expressions as they are. Damesukekun (talk) 13:14, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

ん+な Column Transliteration
Hi !

Sorry, I didn't know about that ! Tha,k you for telling me.

Rachinaf (talk) 08:24, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

RING RING
I'm trying to translate RING RING, but there are some ambiguities I thought I would need to ask a native speaker about.
 * 1) vv. 4, 8, 9, 二人試すようなこの電話と鏡ね: The particles are left out, but following the inanimate subject principle you mentioned, I think that they are testing the phone and mirror, not the phone and mirror testing them. Do you agree?
 * 2) last v., 音符　強く重ねて: Do you think this means playing notes simultaneously or playing notes successively (重ねる has two meanings)? Since they can sing in harmony, I've opted for the simultaneous sense, but I would like to check if that is a valid interpretation.
 * 3) last v. 重ねて: Do you think the -te form is used to indicate a request as I have translated? Alternatively, ending a sentence in -te could mean like 重ねる. それで、… (which annoys me when Japanese people do that because it's so hard to understand what is implied).

Thanks in advance. ElectricRaichu (talk) 11:25, April 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * First question. The sentence is unusual and hard to understand for native speakers too. My intuition says 二人試すようなこの電話と鏡ね would be "This phone and this mirror trick us two" or something like this. I think this matches the context best.
 * Second question. 重ねる (transitive v.) and 重なる (intransitive v.) usually mean simultaneous movements in Japanese.
 * Third question. ように comes after て in this case. て~ように connection makes a "so that" idiom so your interpretation is right. Damesukekun (talk) 04:23, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks for your help. In that case I'll go with the phone/mirror tricking them. That was my original thought, but I couldn't find any support for 試す used that way, and the dictionary only gives the narrow sense of "調べ確かめる". ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:27, April 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, 試す means "to test, to try". But this phrase is a word play so maybe your and my original thoughts are what the author means. Damesukekun (talk)

Re: Postposition の
Hello,

Thank you for the information, but the titles that you corrected weren't actually added by me. I tend to avoid adding English titles unless I'm absolutely sure that they are correct, and if you look at the edit history of the pages you can see that I didn't add them.

Amandelen (talk) 08:54, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for doing that. I appreciate that. Coxal15 (talk) 15:39, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

星屑オーケストラ
Hi I made some further amendments to 星屑オーケストラ. I'm letting you know in case I got something wrong. Anyway, if I misinterpreted something, please feel free to change it back. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:25, April 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) The first time stardust is mentioned, it sounds strange to say "the" because that would mean that the listener is already familiar with this bit of stardust. The second and subsequent times you should say "the" because by then the listener is familiar with it.
 * 2) Stardust is uncountable so you can't say "a small stardust". Even "the small startdust" is awkward, so I've changed it to "a/the small bit of stardust".
 * 3) For 僕の生きた証, I changed "proof of life" back to "proof that I had lived" . Proof of life means proof that someone or something is still alive or that life exists (生命の証明). E.g., "is there proof of life on Mars?"
 * 4) "Even if I'm not here no more" is ungrammatical (double negative). You can say "Even if I'm not here any more" (casual) or "Even if I'm here no more" (rather formal, but I think it sounds better to me here). ちなみに, the previous translation "Even if I'm no more" is perfectly correct, but it's a bit literary so I think it might be obscure to some readers.
 * 5) 例えばもし僕が生まれ変わっても sounds hypothetical to me so I worded it "Even if I were to be reborn." Sorry but your version "Even though I would be reborn" sounds a bit strange to me. I would interpret it as "In a certain situation I will be reborn, but unfortunately when that happens [I'll play this melody ...]" because "though" tends to give the consequence a negative connotation, like のに in Japanese.
 * Thank you for your correction. I learned a lot. Damesukekun (talk) 14:09, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re:You Latest Translations
I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get what you were trying to get across with your examples, since 잘 보세요 does mean 'look at something carefully'(in the general context at least), and I have no idea what you mean by 많으로 보세요, since that is far from grammatical. Did you mean 많이 보세요? I don't know if you ran your Japanese through Google translate or not, but even that isn't a natural sentence if you're trying to mean 'look at something carefully'. 많이 보다 means 'to look at something many times', and to overlook is 넘겨보다. I'm really sorry to say this, but I'm not sure that you are fluent enough in Korean to explain the whole Korean-Japanese dynamic to me.

But still, I understand that you're just trying to tell me that I shouldn't try translating. I'll refrain from tackling Japanese songs from now on, but I do want to tell you that I have never translated Yume no Katachi. I have no idea why you thought I did, but I didn't. Whatever translation was there before you did it, it wasn't mine.

Streetneko (talk) 00:39, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * Your name was on the Yume no Katachi page as the translator, but I understand. Damesukekun (talk) 13:28, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

MISTRANSALTION
Hey,responding to your comment.I am very sorry about the mistake.I did copy it off a youtube video.I didnt know it was a mistransaltion.Sorry

107.4.164.243 02:22, June 3, 2016 (UTC)Yandere Miku107.4.164.243 02:22, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * If you don't understand Japanese to tell good and bad translations, you shouldn't blindly copy other people's translations without research. You're going to share the responsibility of spreading mistranslations. Damesukekun (talk) 06:43, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

想う事 in "wing"
Hi, I've attempted to translate wing, but I've left out the translation for the recurring phrase 想う事. I realize it means "what I feel/think" but I'm unsure how it fits in with the words that follow. I would appreciate your opinion or suggestions. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:08, July 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * The phrase is vague and I'm not fully sure of it, but 想う事 and 今ボクのキモチ seem apposition words. "Right here I give to you my thoughts, my feelings as they are right now ." would be good. Damesukekun (talk) 14:18, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks. I'll think about it a bit more along those lines and see where it leads. ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:31, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

コンストレイション strange credit
If you look at the video for コンストレイション, There's a strange credit "ほよほよ飼育係" at 0:35 into the song. Do you have any idea what it means? Tuning (調声) was credited earlier to 応援歌P and ニクロムP. ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:15, July 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi. ほよほよ飼育係 is the team of 応援歌P, つきのP and ニクロムP. Damesukekun (talk) 12:46, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

そうですか！ Thanks for the explanation. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:42, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

あなたの居る場所へ
Hi, I'm trying to translate あなたの居る場所へ, but I can't figure out the second verse.


 * すれ違った　笑顔の他人(ひと)が　不意にあなたと　重なるのです

Literally, it would read it as "A smiling person passing by unexpectedly lies on top of you" but that's rather silly! I thought maybe "Smiling people are passing by and you unexpectedly turn up among them", but that contradicts the next line that says he's going home to where she is: さぁ帰ろう　あなたの居る場所へ. Do you have any ideas how to interpret it?

ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:45, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's "A smiling person passing by unexpectedly reminds me of you." Damesukekun (talk) 13:50, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:04, September 28, 2016 (UTC)

少年覚醒クライシス
I'm trying to translate 少年覚醒クライシス by a new producer, Pinokinoko. Do have any idea what キレそ　はい、おつ means? Some other lines are also a bit tricky for me, so if you have time, could you please have a look? ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:05, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * In this case the three words are interjections conveying negative feelings. Damesukekun (talk) 01:36, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

きりん
Hi, sorry to trouble you again, but I'm having trouble with the following line in this crazy song.


 * サバンナじこみの太陽も はだしで逃げ出す熱視線

I think it's referring to how the leopard was staring at the giraffe. Do you think it means "a stare so intense that even the savannah sun would run away barefoot" (太陽 is the subject of 逃げ出す) or "a stare so intense that even someone brought up under the savannah sun would run away barefoot" (generic subject) or something else? ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:13, October 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * I take the first one. サバンナじこみの太陽 sounds ungrammatical and weird anyway. Damesukekun (talk) 14:16, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks, I'm glad you thought it's strange too.

Sorry, I forgot to ask about another line near the end: 黄色黒はっきりついたのかな. I can't understand why there is a doubt or question. Does ついた refer to the "picture" being coloured yellow and black, or am I missing something? ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:01, October 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * This seems a spoof on 白黒はっきりする/白黒はっきりつける "Make it clear" "Say yes or no clearly". However I'm not fully sure about my interpretation. Damesukekun (talk) 15:02, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

So kiirokuro is a pun on shirokuro&mdash;I would never have guessed! Thanks so much, it makes sense now. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:33, October 12, 2016 (UTC)