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Amandelen (talk) 19:29, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Hoshi no Yukue made translation
Hello, thanks for the translation to Hoshi no Yukue made. Would you be able to credit the translator, even if it's yourself? Sometimes people copy translations by translators who are known to be unreliable and we have to delete them. Unless we can identify anonymous translations, we usually delete them unless we can confirm their accuracy.

If you translated this song yourself, would you be able to address some issues ... ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:24, March 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * 舟 usually refers to a boat while 船 to a ship. The reference to rowing also suggests a boat.
 * 途方に暮れるほど晴れた is one phrase. It sounds to me like what's puzzling is why the sky is so clear.
 * そこまで舟を漕いで進む Translation lacks the sense that there's a destination in mind, probably where the star landed.
 * 手がかりは星の落ちた場所 / 遠くはない. It may be a matter of interpretation but I think interpreting literally makes more sense to me, "The clue is the place where the star fell; it's not far." Or maybe "The clue is at the place where the star fell; it's not far."
 * 夜空駆けるあの星のように. Again it's a matter of interpretation. You've interpreted it as 夜空はあの星のように駆ける but I think it's less forced and makes better sense if you take it as 夜空を駆けるあの星、のように, "like that star that races through the night sky", describing the wish for the ship to make a similar speedy journey.


 * Yes, I'm the one who translated it. I can add the credit to the page.


 * I could change "ship" to "boat". I mainly just used ship because I thought it sounded better and didn't detract from the meaning enough to matter much, and the mention of rowing and a sinlge crew member would let people know it isn't a huge ship.
 * Maybe something like "While staring up at the sky that's so clear it's puzzling" would be more clear?
 * I figured the intention of rowing to a destination was implied, so I didn't directly translate the そこまで. Adding a few more words could make it clearer, although I think other parts of the song let people know they are going towards a destination.
 * Perhaps. I read it as them searching far for clues of the star's landing place but not finding any. Your idea could also work.
 * This is also a tricky one since I think either intepretation works.
 * Migu39 (talk) 00:30, March 12, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for thinking about my comments. ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:16, March 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, the reader can infer that's it's a small vessel if they think about it, but i think calling it a boat makes it easier for them. Actually I think boat sounds better anyway, but I guess that's a matter of personal taste.
 * Yes I think that sounds more accurate.
 * I see what you mean about そこまで. If you can't think of a concise way of putting it, I guess it's OK as it is.
 * 遠くない is just the negative of 遠い. "It's not far". 遠くは indicates (to me at least) that it's 遠く being negated. If, as you interpret, 手がかり is being negated, that would make 遠く be in apposition to 星の落ちた場所, and following 遠く with は would suggest that there's no clue far away where it landed with the implication that the clue could be nearby. I can't see how the line could mean "clues about where it fell". Sorry it got a bit technical ...
 * Yes grammatically it's open to interpretation. I lean towards mine because a night sky moves slowly, while a shooting star does race through the sky. Plus then the speed of the star becomes a simile for the boat's speed. I can't see how the movement of a shooting star can be a simile for the sky's speed. What do you think?


 * I changed all the "ship"s to "boat"s. I guess there is some taste involved since I prefer the other word, I'm not really that attached to either though and boat is more accurate due to the kanji used.
 * Changed. This also makes me think "途方に暮れるほど遠い記憶をたどって" might need rewriting since I similarly intepreted it as two phrases instead of everything modifying 記憶. Thoughts?
 * Changed to "I continue rowing my boat to my destination", could maybe even be shortened to "I continue rowing my boat forward".
 * This is likely a better interpetation. I was thinking maybe words are just mixed around to sounds better, so 手がかり and ない went together. Maybe a bit too contrived to be accurate. Changed.
 * I was mainly thinking of how in English you might say something like "the night races on". It may not fit though. In the context of the following line I can definitely see your point. I've changed this line too.
 * Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate you taking the time to reach out and help me improve.


 * Migu39 (talk) 11:43, March 12, 2019 (UTC)

It's a pleasure, and hopefully we both learned something. I would've struggled with some of those lines myself when I started off.

As with any skill, keep practicing, try to get feedback when you can, and be patient with yourself too. And I think reading widely in both languages helps you become more fluent. Even though I already knew Japanese grammar, if I hadn't read some manga and found out how people really talk (as opposed to the sanitized Japanese you get in textbooks), I would've found songs very confusing.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:20, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

恋のミュージックアワー
I had a look at your translation for Love Music Hour and I would like to give you some feedback. I added your name as translator. I tended to forget to do that when I started, but we do consider it important to know, because sometimes people add translations by translators who are known to be unreliable (and then we have to delete them), and also it's nice to give credit for a good translation. ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:50, March 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * きっと この想いよ届け is a command addressed to the feelings, asking them the be delivered. English isn't as good as expressing that sort of thing, but often starting a sentence with "May ..." or "Let ..." sometimes works.
 * そっと その胸に響かせて can have two interpretations, either something happening before another clause (it would be the 届け of the previous lines), or a request, short for 響かせてください. Either way, it means "letting/let the music resonate" rather than "the music resonates".
 * you who is so extra special -- shouldn't that be "you who are so extra special"?
 * キラリ＊おしゃれして kirari means a flash of light, but in English "in a flash" has a different meaning, like "very quickly" so I don't think it captures the correct meaning. Maybe it's suggesting glittery clothes?
 * 背伸びして can mean stretching on one's toes, but also reaching up high either literally or metaphorically. I wonder if "reaching high" would fit better?
 * ふわり 色付いて I don't think fuwari "light (in weight), soft (to the touch), fluffy" can refer to how colour changes. It's more likely that she feels like she's floating like a cloud and her world seems painted with new colours as a result of falling in love.
 * 不器用だけど ありのままで The phrase ari no mama means something like "in the state that something is", "how it really is", "putting it frankly". I'm not sure of the next line, but it could be saying, "I may be clumsy, but just as I am right now [clumsy and all], hug me". Unless it's trying to say something else by 今を抱きしめて.
 * Thanks for adding the traslation credit! I realized I forgot it after posting but hadn't been able to update it yet. The feedback is appreciated too.


 * Do you mean it is a command as in the commanding form of 届く? I figured it was a form of 届ける describing that they were going to express their thoughts/feelings, or that the thoughts were themselves a report which was a little weird to put in English.
 * I think what I did have was pretty close, but I changed it since it sounds better and is a bit more accurate.
 * Using "is" sounds natural to me, so I'm not sure. I looked it up and some people would say "are" is better while some people say "is" is fine for a singular "you", so it doesn't seem clear what is correct to me.
 * You may be correct with this. It's probably a contraction of キラリと光る which I've seen used like "gleeming/sparkling/etc." so it is probably describing the clothes not the action of putting them on.
 * I read it more as a literal body stretch since they were describing putting on clothes/shoes, like they got ready and then stretched. I'm not sure what else they would be reaching for.
 * I've seen ふわり used to modify actions like this before, typically with と like ふわりと動く. So to me it just seemed like と was omitted but still used to describe 色付く.I've also seen this in other songs like [//vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/ルーゲルダ_(Rugelda) https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/ルーゲルダ_(Rugelda)] which has a similar translation. There is still some abiguity in what color is changing, so it might be better as "My color softly changes" or something like that.
 * I think what I have expresses that already, unless I'm not understanding you correctly. "Even though I'm clumsy in this moment/Please hug me".  Unless you mean that the song is saying the singer is always clumsy but what I translated implies that clumsiness is more of a momentary quality?
 * Migu39 (talk) 14:35, March 16, 2019 (UTC)

I would lean towards interpreting 届け as a command, mainly because it follows noun+よ which can be used to address someone, such as to indicate who a command is for. If it was 届ける, then I guess it's possible but interpreting よ that way seems forced to me, as if きっとこの想いよ is answering a question: "Surely it's this feeling, you know! [I'll] deliver [it] and [I'll] let ... music resonate ... [and ...]"

If you look up ふわり[と] on weblio, I don't see how it can carry the meaning of "gently changing". The senses listed are "light and soft" or "light and floating". The usage in Rugelda is very similar to the one in this song: the person feels light and the colour that symbolizes their emotions is changing. These are two related but distinct sensations. ふわりと動く means to move as if floating, i.e., lightly, which is within the range of the listed meanings. Changing gradually isn't, AFAICT.

With the last point, I think I see what you mean. "in this moment" is a bit different in meaning to ありのままで "as I am", but it's not stated whether clumsiness is a permanent characteristic or just difficulty in expressing herself at that time, so I guess what you've got is close enough to a reasonable interpretation.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 19:48, March 16, 2019 (UTC)


 * I didn't think it was a command at first, mainly because the rest of the writing isn't that strong, so it seemed out of place to me. Maybe something like "Let these feelings be expressed!"?


 * So "gently" wouldn't work but "lightly" or "softly" would? Reading it again, I think it really doesn't describe the "color" change, but more a change of mood in contrast to the previous lines. They start off very nervous/excited and then their mood lightens. So yeah this does need a correction.


 * Migu39 (talk) 12:32, March 17, 2019 (UTC)

It's worded as a command to the feeling, but I take it as more of a wish. "Let this feeling reach you", "May you get to know this feeling".

Her excitement won't stop so she feels like she's floating and her emotions make everything look a different colour. "My heart feels light and colourful" maybe?

ElectricRaichu (talk) 19:51, March 17, 2019 (UTC)

Requests
Hello there! I hope you're doing well. Do you take translation requests? SolarTwT (talk) 16:42, September 9, 2019

Hello! I might be open to it if I like the song and feel confident I could give it a proper translation. Do you have some you were wanting to request, or were you just wanting to know for future reference? Migu39 (talk) 18:30, September 9, 2019 (UTC)

Both, actually. I have a few songs I really want to be translated, so I'll link them here :- If there's a song you like, I'd appreciate it if you try your hand at translating it. I just listed a bunch of songs I'm curious about. Sorry if it's too much TvT
 * Cafne
 * krank
 * Tokumei
 * Coffin
 * Ciel Étoilé
 * Yoru o Oyogu
 * Cold Water
 * Festfes

Thank you! SolarTwT (talk) 11:07, September 10, 2019 (UTC)

I can give a few a shot. I'll start with シエレトワール since I do like that producer quite a bit. Cold Water I think I can also handle. From there I will see on any others. I probably won't want to do all of them but I can take care of some. Migu39 (talk) 20:44, September 13, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I do really like Ciel Etoile and Cold Water. I'll ask Raichu if he can translate Telecaster B-Boy (since it's a Len song XD) Thank you once again!

ロヒプノール
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%83%92%E3%83%97%E3%83%8E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB_(Rohypnol) If you don't mind, I'd like to request this as well if it's not too difficult (I can pick a simpler/shorter song if you'd like tho)~Raine

This one is pretty tough to me, so I'm afraid I wouldn't do a good job with it. You can always post others and there might be some I could try though. The length typically isn't an issue, it just depends on the difficulty of the language used. Migu39 (talk) 21:54, September 17, 2019 (UTC)

Ciel Etoile
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AC%E3%83%88%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB_(Ciel_%C3%89toil%C3%A9) Thanks for the translation, could I also ask for a translation of the composer's comment in the description as well? :) ("瞬きをしている間に、世界は少し変わるらしい")--Angel

The description in the song info section at the top of the song's page has a translation of that part: "In a blink, the world seems to change a little bit". Typically what is in that section is a direct translation of something the producer said in the comments when they uploaded the video. Migu39 (talk) 11:19, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the translation!!!! SolarTwT (talk) 12:13, September 18, 2019 (UTC) Are you going to start with Cold Water? SolarTwT (talk) 12:18, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome. I got Cold Water done now too, it's a bit simpler than Ciel so it didn't take too long. Migu39 (talk) 20:49, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

re-Request
I'm really sorry for bothering you like this TvT but I just realised that most of haruno's songs haven't been translated. They're fairly simple. There are some appearing on the CCs of his videos but I'm not sure whether they are entirely accurate. If you finish Cold Water, I would really appreciate if you consider some of haruno's songs for translation (especially Squall, Deep Coma and nuit) or update the ones in the CCs if they are good enough. You can ignore my previous requests if it's too much. Thank you!!

SolarTwT (talk) 18:36, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think I'm familiar with this this producer, but I can check out there stuff and see if there's anything I'd want to work on. I have some other songs that I want to take care of first so it might be a few days or so. I'll take another look at the other songs you had posted too after that. Migu39 (talk) 20:53, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

That's okay, take your time! I'll leave the links to the songs I mentioned above, in case you want a first look. Thank you!!
 * Squall
 * Deep Coma
 * nuit

SolarTwT (talk) 07:27, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

I posted a new version of nuit. The translation in the CC of the video isn't too bad, I think it could be worded a little better though so I made my own.

Migu39 (talk) 11:17, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the translation!!! SolarTwT (talk) 15:19, September 29, 2019 (UTC)

スコール
Just noticed your translation of スコール and I made a couple of tweaks, hope you're happy with them.

淀んだくらし I don't think we say "stagnate life". I changed it to "stagnated life", or you can also say "stagnant life".

明日のはなしをしよう？ I think it means "Shall we talk about tomorrow?" which is what I think you meant. (It could also mean "Shall we talk about it tomorrow" but I think your intepretation makes more sense.)

The translation for 手のひらでまだ / 掬えるだけのかたちだって is a bit wordy but I'm not sure how to improve it. I'm not sure how to interpret the lines but for now I've changed "just needs to be" to "can be" because I don't really get the sense of "need" from the Japanese.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:46, September 22, 2019 (UTC)

I did mean "stagnant" with that first one but made a typo, "stagnated" works well too though.

The way you put 明日のはなしをしよう sounds more natural, I think what I had was just more literally translated.

The 手のひら... part is odd, so there may be more room for improvement still. I used "just needs" because of the だけ before 掬える, not to imply it was a necessary action. I read it like all that is needed is that かたち can be scooped out to get it. But yeah it's a weird section.

Migu39 (talk) 00:42, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the translation and corrections! SolarTwT (talk) 18:37, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Oh I see. While だけ can have the sense of のみ, "that and no more", だけ can also mean "that and no more and no less", "around that amount". Given that 掬える is potential, I would take it to mean that what lies in the palm is a small amount, yes it's just a scoop, but it's also enough that you actually can scoop it out, like more than a few drops. See dctionary. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:20, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Kuchi o tsuku
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E5%8F%A3%E3%82%92%E8%A1%9D%E3%81%8F_%28Kuchi_o_Tsuku%29 If you have time, I'd like to request this too~Raine

I don't think I've heard this producer before, but I like their stuff so thanks for the request! I should be able to take on this one, I'll try to get to it within a week or so. Migu39 (talk) 13:16, September 24, 2019 (UTC)

This one is done now. Migu39 (talk) 12:54, September 29, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, can you translate the title too please? :)~Raine

Yep, no problem. Migu39 (talk) 02:10, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

PinocchioP
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E4%BA%BA%E9%96%93%E3%81%AA%E3%82%93%E3%81%8B%E5%A4%A7%E5%AB%8C%E3%81%84_(Ningen_Nanka_Daikirai)

Could you translate this when you have time please? :3--Angel

I have been looking at this one, I'm not sure if I'll post anything for it yet though since there are a few parts that are difficult to me. I'll give it a little more time and report back once I'm sure I can do it or not.

Migu39 (talk) 21:27, October 7, 2019 (UTC)

Lazy Cruise
Hello! Do you mind checking the translations for the spoken lines for this https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA_(Lazy_Cruise)

I tried TvT Please make the necessary corrections if needed. And consider translating the song if you can!

SolarTwT (talk) 10:46, October 8, 2019 (UTC)

The translation looks pretty good. Some things that might need changing are:

めんどくさいので死んでください I would say "You're really annoying" instead of "it's really annoying" since I'm pretty sure the speaker is refering to the other person there.

送るよ Might be better as "I'll see you off" or something like that rather than just "good bye".

Other than that I think it's fine. If you were able to do that then maybe you could try the rest of the song too? I wouldn't mind checking it or helping out if you want to give it a shot. I could take care of the rest but it might be a little while before I get to it.

Migu39 (talk) 13:00, October 8, 2019 (UTC)

Oh I see! So the speaker was referring to the other person...I thought they were referring to the time constraint of their meetings, judging from the previous lines (since it seems like they can meet only during the night. Maybe the speaker is a spirit unable to pass and the other person's a human? That's why they ask them to die, so that it's easier for them to meet.)

Also I'm not sure if "no, not yet" is the right translation for 「いやだ」? Because it feels like the person is reluctant to let their time end, though I don't really know how to express that in English. Maybe, "No...not yet"?

Thanks! I didn't know how to translate 送るよ but now that you say it, it's pretty obvious TvT I was too caught up on the specifics TvT

I would if I could, but translating spoken lines is a lot different from translating a song, I'm afraid I'm not skilled enough to do that yet. I might try, though I feel like it'll be full of mistakes which will end up troubling you more than being of help :')

Anyway, thanks for the corrections!

Edit: So I read through the lyrics again, and I have no idea what some of the lines are trying to say TvT I need to study more..

SolarTwT (talk) 16:25, October 8, 2019 (UTC)

The translation for いやだ is alright, it could probably be better but I don't think English has an equivalent that is so compact for the situation. The speaker is expressing displeasure at having to part with the other person, it might be hard to get across with just text. Maybe "I don't want to leave yet" or "Aww, so soon?" or "Just a little longer", but again English isn't as compact in this situation so you risk putting in more than is necessary. Maybe just "Aww..." or a similar sound of disappointment would be fine?

If you don't want to try the full song I can add it to my list, I'm not familiar with this producer but the song is pretty cool.

Migu39 (talk) 13:01, October 9, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't think of anything that's short enough to keep the original tone. But using just a sound of disappointment/displeasure doesn't quite carry the whole feeling, for me atleast. How about "Not so fast" but that sounds like the speaker's chasing the other person. Or how about having more emphasis on the negation like, "Not, so soon..." or "Not, just yet..."?

Alright then, please add it to your list m(_ _)m

Also here is my translation of the first three lines (I'm not sure about them at all TvT) :-

As the dissolving horizon 

clings on to the darkening evenings

I get lost in you

SolarTwT (talk) 15:34, October 9, 2019 (UTC)