User talk:Damesukekun

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Vocaloid Lyrics Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Aku no Meshitsukai page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Esperancia (Talk) 18:39, November 29, 2011

Translation
Hi, I tweaked the translation to Cryogenic after you amended it. Please have a look and see what you think. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:17, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Your correction made the translation much more fluent. Damesukekun (talk) 13:34, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad you're happy with it. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:44, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Panda Virus
I'm trying to translate “Panda” virus, but I can't understand some phrases. Tasukete kuremasen ka? Thanks in advance for any help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:20, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * 舌なめずりを自重 ... 「じちょう」って、自分を重んじるとか大事にするとかじゃありませんか. I don't understand what it means here.
 * 知らないままの君じゃない ... さっぱりわかりません. Does 「じゃない」 mean "is not", or does it mean "isn't it?" i.e. "of course it is"?
 * 報酬金 ... refers to some kind of payment, right? I'm not sure in context what it's talking about.


 * 自重: 自重 has two usages. One is "to take care of oneself" and the other is "to be prudent" or "to refrain from doing something". In this case the latter usage (to refrain from doing something) is right.
 * 知らないままの君じゃない: this sentence is very confusing, but judging from the context "You are no longer who I don't know" or so.
 * 報奨金: it means "reward". This refers to the preceding sentence 一度頼まれた仕事は　死んででも遂げよう.
 * Damesukekun (talk) 00:01, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply! I have added my translation. If you have time, could you have a look? Maybe 報奨金 "reward" refers to being "Wanted"? Also, I translated 真似はダメだ as (あなたがパンダを)まねてはだめだ, but could it mean (パンダの)行動はだめだ? ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:16, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I checked your translation and re-translated a few lines.
 * 報奨金 sometimes means "reward for information leading to wanted criminal", but in this case simply "reward" seems better.
 * Either あなたがパンダをまねてはだめだ　or パンダの行動はだめだ is suitable for 真似はダメだ. It's your choice.
 * 舌なめずり is used as a metaphor in this song. It means a state of desire like Tom licking his lips when he catches Jerry.

Damesukekun (talk) 07:37, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I appreciate your help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:46, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Romaji Lyrics from Vocaloid Wiki
Thank you for telling me. I'll make sure to double check the romaji I use.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:39, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

盲目の宇宙飛行士
「盲目の宇宙飛行士」を訳してみました. 単語はほとんどわかりましたが、解釈はちょっと…. 助けてもらえませんか.

If you are able to help in any way, it would be very much appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:52, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * From what I understand, a sighted boy likes a downcast blind girl and attempts to get her to see light. However, he fails and gets disillusioned. He loses sight of something more important, the relationship that has developed between them. But the girl is now happy in spite of her blindness and conveys this to the boy. Do you think this is correct?
 * The lines 少女は知らない, 少年は忘れた, 二人は知った do not say what was unknown/forgotten/discovered. Is there a way to understand the unspecified 目的語 from the text of the song?
 * I am not very familiar with 躍起になる. My translation is a bit of a guess ...


 * About the lyrics. The boy literally lost sight in the end of the story, but the disabled two became happy because they finally found a new light - love between them.
 * 少女は　知らない is 少女は　光咲く　夜空も 知らない, so "The girl doesn't know them" seems fine.
 * I'm not fully sure of the sentence 少年は　忘れた either, but the boy started to lose sight at this point, so 少年は　あんなに光っているのに　届かないのか 忘れた "The boy doesn't know it" seems fine.
 * 二人は知った is 二人は それでも光が　そばにいることを 知った (anastrophe), so your translation is correct.
 * There is no corresponding word in English for 躍起になる, but it conveys the idea of making your hardest effort to fulfill your aim. (Reference).
 * I checked your translations and redid a few lines. Damesukekun (talk) 12:04, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

そうですか. ほろ苦いですね. コメント、訂正、ありがとうございました.

FYI I had a look here for 躍起 and it suggests a feeling of 焦る or 必死, so the closest English words might be "frantic" or "bent on" or "vehement". (I had already looked at ALC but I didn't find it helpful this time.)

Your wording "forgets to make smiles" sounds a bit awkward in English so I'll change it to "forgets how to smile". ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:14, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Mr.ブギーメン
Hi, it's me again. おじゃまします.

I had a go at Mr.ブギーメン, but I'm not sure what 捨てて means in verse 5. It doesn't seem to fit the sentence. Would you be able to give me your opinion?

Also, 誰にも届かない occurs twice, but the meaning seems to be different: Do you think that's correct? ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:48, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 誰にも届かない場所へ私を連れて = unreachable by anyone (?)
 * そんな声じゃ誰にも届かない = unreachable to anyone (?)


 * やたら増えた独り言は　欲望に塗れて捨てて is ungrammatical and weird. The point is the girl threw away her murmurs. I slightly changed your translation.
 * にも in both sentences indicates stressed objects. に (object indicator in this case) + も (emphasize in this case). English by and to are object indicators and the both are acceptable depending on the context. English and Japanese are very different languages one another. A Japanese word can't simply be converted to an English word. Damesukekun (talk) 14:22, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

About に, thanks for the explanation. I understand it can indicate both agent (by) and destination (to). I just wanted to make sure I understood these lines properly, because using に as agent with a simple intransitive verb (i.e., not passive or potential transitive verb) seemed unusual.

I am glad you said that 塗れて捨てて is ungrammatical because I was struggling to understand it. So the girl discarded her own 独り言? OK thank you. Um ... I'm afraid your English translation is hard to follow, but I will need to think a while about how to improve it. The construction is very different to how we express things in English.

Thanks again for your help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:25, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Romaji Transliterations
I'll make sure to provide a tutorial as soon as I can. And I'll also make sure that Vanderheld isn't used as a source anymore.

Could I also ask a quick question? I've seen you transliterate には as "niwa" while others transliterate (from whom I know don't use machine translations) it as "ni wa". Is it supposed to be compound or could it be transliterated as both? Sorry if the question is bothering you. I just wanted to make sure orz.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:12, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for double posting. I just wanted to tell you that I updated the Song Article Guideline to feature the tutorial. I'm also working on making a pop-up to remind users that they shouldn't use direct machine transliterations (ElectricRaichu's idea). Just thought you should know =).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:22, August 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I added info about Korean transliteration. Damesukekun (talk) 04:27, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

About the practice for capitalizing katakana in romaji, maybe you can suggest something like the following in the guidelines.


 * "If a word not normally written in katakana has been written in katakana, and if you believe that this conveys something significant, then you can put the romaji in italics, not in capitals."

What do you think? Providing an alternative sometimes works better than telling people to stop. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:36, September 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Recently not a few Vocaloid musicians overuse katakana in wrong ways. I don't know why but it seems they think katakana looks "cool". Their katakana words such as キミ or アナタ don't always mean emphasis. It's difficult even for native speakers to tell which katakana words suggest significance and which don't. So I personally think it's better to stop using katakana-capital or katakana-italic transliteration for the time being. Damesukekun (talk) 05:31, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

そうですね. リョウカイします！ ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:11, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Hand in Hand subtitled video
Hi, I've translated your "Hand in Hand" 's lyrics in Italian and I'm currently working on an Italian-subbed version. Also, there aren't English-subbed versions on YouTube and I want to post your translation! Obviously, I'll credit you! :)

愛言葉
こんにちは、ライチュウです. I translated 愛言葉 (Ai Kotoba) a few weeks ago but I have a few unresolved issues. If you have time to help with any of them it would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:18, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) verse 2, このご恩を一生で忘れないうちに
 * 2) *ご恩を一生で忘れない means "I will never forget"
 * 3) *忘れないうちに normally means "before I forget", which suggests she might forget, right?
 * 4) *Since they contradict, I translated うち literally, "during [my whole life]".
 * 5) verse 5, 一生で限られた時間で生まれる
 * 6) *What does で indicate? I would say ...時間に生まれる and that's how I've translated it.
 * 7) last verse, 僕からたくさんの君への愛言葉
 * 8) *I missing anything that can resolve whether たくさんの applies to 君 or to 愛言葉, or is it up to the listener's interpretation?
 * 9) *Normally 君 is singular so I've translated it that way, but in the context of the song it could refer to all her listeners.
 * The lyrics have many rhetorical modifiers that sounds redundant to English speakers. I'll check your translation later. Damesukekun (talk) 15:32, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it up! ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:40, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

サボテンのきもち
I tried translating サボテンのきもち but it's harder than it first looked! Do you have any idea what ちいさいこともつみかさねたら and いやなことだらけつみかさねたら might be referring to? Also, I've translated サボってんなよ as "Don't neglect me!" Do you think that sounds OK? ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:02, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think your interpretation is okay. Didn't you forget "me" on the second line btw? I added it. Damesukekun (talk) 03:44, October 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking it and for fixing the typo. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:19, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

青い自転車に乗って
Hi, I noticed you changed the translation of the title back to "Riding ...". I don't know how "official" it is, but KARENT translates it as "Ride ..." so I changed it to agree. Either way makes sense in English because both "ride" and "riding" can be used as nouns. "Ride" means an instance of "riding". ElectricRaichu (talk) 11:31, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that. Thank you for correction. Damesukekun (talk) 14:48, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * No I meant I changed it in the past. Bu I wanted to check with you first before reverting your change in case you knew something I didn't know or had a better reason. Anyway, if you're fine with the "official" name I'll change it back. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:10, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

こんにちは〜
そして初めましてかな. 前にツイッターでメッセージを送りましたが連絡を取れませんでしたからやっぱり初めましてですね:)

(こちらの日本語に誤ちがあれば(いや、ほぼ必然だと思いますw)すみません. )

御親切な申し出をありがとうございました. 早速ですが質問させていただきます:D

昨日アップした「炎の鳥、群青をゆく. 」のページを見ていただけませんか？

実は今回の翻訳に特に「見よ！」と始まるその部分でちょっと困難がありました. おまけに節が改行してる所をどうにも合わなかったのです. 自分のページに毎列がもっと長かったのでこの問題がありませんでしたが、ここじゃそう出来ないみたいですね.

それでは、よろしくお願いします！

テラ Terracannon876 (talk) 16:24, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for tweaking some of my translations. It was a big help!

2bricacity (talk) 18:43, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I uh ... didn't? Is this meant to be a separate thread for Damesukekun?

Terracannon876 (talk) 21:13, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late reply. I checked your translation and made a slight correction..
 * 引いた弓矢の切先に 想いを託し弾いたなら literally translates as "If (she) puts (her) feelings on the spearhead of the arrow that she drew and releases (it),". I translated it as "Let her draw the bow taut putting prayers on the spearhead (and)".
 * Sentence and paragraph. In this song some sentences go across two paragraphs, so your interpretation is okay. (I personally don't like this confusing writing among amateur Vocaloid lyricists.) Damesukekun (talk) 11:48, October 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * チェックしてくれてありがとうございました :)


 * Don't worry about the late reply.  I've come to realize that I probably live halfway across the world as every admin on this site, and you needed to check the translations, too.


 * That line was difficult simply because the English was always going to be either awkward or a great amount of artistic license would have been needed.  I chose the latter, but yours is more literal.  And thanks for the feedback on the paragraph breaks. :)


 * The mind gap lying between Japanese and English always torments translators. Damesukekun (talk)


 * What do you mean by mind gap?  Did you mean the gap between languages?
 * Terracannon876 (talk) 13:17, October 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Mistake. I meant the gap between Jp and En. Damesukekun (talk) 13:37, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Questions about Ikerenka
I have a couple of queries about Ikerenka. Maybe you can offer some help ... よろしくお願いします. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:28, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) どうも気が乗ってこない -- does that mean "I don't feel like it"? How does どうも change the meaning?
 * 2) ボクを本気にして -- that seems ambiguous to me, "make me serious about you" or "take me seriously". Are both meanings possible, or is there a reason why one of them is correct?
 * 3) 基本一応“出来てる”気分？ -- that must mean "A look over the basics, and I feel it's accomplished", right? But I don't get why it's a question. The translation does not have a question.
 * どうも means どうしても in this case so your interpretation is okay.
 * して in ボクを本気にして in this case is the imperative form of する. You are right.
 * The question mark in 基本一応出来てる気分? is ungrammatical, so you can omit it in the English translation. Damesukekun (talk) 15:31, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. Actually that was one of the more difficult songs to understand ... ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:27, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Yasagurenka translation questions
Hey there! Question about edits I did to Yasagurenka (seeing your Ikerenka comments reminded me I really wanted to edit these lyrics the moment I'd read them a week ago). It's really different having a native Japanese speaker that I can consult with. Thanks for your help last time!
 * I kept the original "English translation by ___" because I worked off his/her translations.  Should this be kept (considering I changed so much)?
 * "Gureru" vs. "Yasagureru" is really interesting to me.  I tried to keep the original translation in this case, though.  Would you say "yasagureru" is more "to sulk" or "to run away from responsibilities (or, to be apathetic and not care)" in this song?
 * The last sentence is 「この壊れそうな想いを一番先に伝えたい」Is this "I want to tell you before I tell anyone else" or "I want to tell you before anyone else tells you?"  I thought it could be interpreted both ways so I kept it vague, but I also feel it's more likely the first one.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot to sign last time!

Terracannon876 (talk) 16:39, October 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you can put your name as the translator since you practically made a new one, but if you want to leave 2bricacity's name, it's okay.
 * やさぐれる sometimes means (or is confused with) ぐれる. My intuition says ぐれる and やさぐれる convey the same idea in this song.
 * この壊れそうな想いを一番先に伝えたい can be read as the both ways you mentioned and sometimes brings confusion to native Japanese speakers too. The interpretation depends on the context. In this case "I want to tell you before I tell anyone else" suits the better than the other. "The horse raced past the barn fell". Damesukekun (talk) 05:25, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Please check my translation
BTW Thanks for the fix to Nagai Yoru ... it was such a silly slip I made ...

Could you please check my translation for Dear that I just uploaded? I'm making a PV for it and I want to make sure I haven't made any similar booboos in the subs.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:28, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't say thanks to me. I'm always learning how to write lyrical English sentences through your translations.
 * I found no mistakes in your Dear translation. Looking for your PV upload. Damesukekun (talk) 13:05, October 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * 優しい言葉、ありがとうございました. 動画を見たいなら、どうぞこちらへ. https://youtu.be/FM9jJn4nMAg ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:21, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Zombie Maker
That was one weird song lol. But it was really short so I was like, "why not?" though I fear I made more trouble for you in the end with all those corrections, haha.

Terracannon876 (talk) 15:21, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, the lyrics are ungrammatical and weird to Jp speakers too. Damesukekun (talk) 02:14, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

ウミユリ海底譚
Hi ! Sorry to bother you, but I think the translation of ウミユリ海底譚 (Umiyuri Kanteitan) is slightly wrong, even though Vervain Subs is on the recommended list.

The sentence that hit me the most is 海の底　息を飲み干す夢を見た "I saw a dream of drinking up the bottom of the sea in one breath", isn't it supposed to be something like : "In the bottom of the sea, I dreamt of breathing [a lot]" ?

There's also : 海中列車に遠のいた / 涙なんて　なんて "You were receding in a mid-sea train / As for tears, there's no way, no way". I don't understand how/why なんて becomes a negation.

And 「なんて」 is just translated "How", which is a bit weird for me.

Sorry if those are dumb remarks/questions and for my bad english, thank you in advance !

Rachinaf (talk) 16:49, November 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Excuse me for coming in ... I think なんて can indicate something that shouldn't be that way, e.g., it's surprising, or wrong, or unbelievable. So 涙なんて can mean "how can there be tears!", or putting it more explicitly, "there should not be tears".
 * As for 「なんて」 on its own can be any exclamation "What!?" "How!?" "Why!?" depending on context. I'd have to understand the lyrics well to suggest how to translate it. It's possible the translator confused なんて with なんで, but also possible that the translation is correct.
 * But from a quick skim, I could see a few errors:
 * 息を飲み干す surely must mean suck in all your breath. Drinking the entire seaなんて!
 * 眺める means view/gaze/stare, i.e. look at intently or for a long time, not glance, which means look at just for a moment.
 * 空の底 means bottom of the sky, not sky garden. Maybe the translater confused 底 with 庭.
 * ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:30, November 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comments. I corrected the mistakes you pointed out. Damesukekun (talk) 12:55, November 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you, both of you !


 * Rachinaf (talk) 20:37, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Holy Flag
HoneyWork's latest song Holy Flag is very catchy and is looking to be quite popular. I wonder what the background is? I had a go at translating it since viewers on youtube have been asking but I find some parts ambiguous. For example
 * 阻む弓矢投げられる悪意 -- does that mean 僕らを阻もうとする、敵に投げられる矢? Also, it sounds strange to throw bows with the arrows ...
 * 蒼い -- do you know what it signifies? does it literally mean the colour, or perhaps youthfulness?
 * 蒼く燃える証　目を覚ました -- does that mean 僕らの炎が蒼く燃えることの証? How does the sign/proof relate to waking up?

So if you have a chance, could you check/correct it? ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:04, November 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * 阻む弓矢投げられる悪意 becomes 僕らを阻む弓矢、僕らに投げられる悪意 if you restore omitted subjects. "The (bows and) arrows that get in our way, and the malice that is shot to us"
 * 蒼い doesn't have any metaphoric meaning in this case.
 * 蒼く燃える証　目を覚ました literally means "the sign that burns blue awakened". I think "the sign in blue flames starts to move forward" would be fine.
 * Damesukekun (talk) 14:31, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I've amended the translation accordingly. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:57, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

ラウンダバウト
I had a go at translating ラウンダバウト (Roundabout). I would like to make a subtitled video but I have some uncertainties and was hoping you could help. If there is anything else you notice, feel free to advise/amend. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:21, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 君の視線 伸ばした指の先に 気付いた瞬間: Does that mean 君が［僕の］指の先を見るのに［僕が］気付いた瞬間? I'm thinking it might also could be interpreted as ［僕の］伸ばした指の先を［君が］見て気付いた瞬間.
 * 胸が軋んだ: へぇ？
 * 眩しいその瞳が: I presume 瞳 is the subject of 眩しい, do you agree?
 * 心騙し得た幸せ: Does it mean that 僕 deceived himself into feeling happy?
 * The phrase 君の視線～ is very vague to native speakers too, but I support 君が［僕の］指の先を見るのに［僕が］気付いた瞬間.
 * 胸が軋んだ is a metaphoric phrase. You can say either "My chest/heart creaked" or "My chest/heart ached".
 * 眩しい is a modifier rather than a subject in this case. The literal translation is "The moment when those dazzling eyes (of yours) smile, time stopped".
 * 心騙し～. You are right. He deceived himself.

Damesukekun (talk) 15:20, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've amended the translation according to your advice. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:27, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm just subbing this now and I noticed the line 心揺らし溢れ出す感情を / 消せない弱さに声を枯らした. Initially I interpreted it as 心揺らし、感情を溢れ出す. 消せない弱さに声を枯らした. I.e, he is overwhelmed with emotion and he can't eliminate his weakness. But maybe it should be interpreted as ((心揺らし溢れ出す)感情を消せない)弱さ, i.e., his weakness is that he can't eleminate his overwhelming emotions. I think it reads more naturally and makes a more sense. What do you think?

On a separate note, thanks for fixing 魔法の手. I can't believe I had checked it before ... maybe I was tired that day (てれくさいな〜). Anyway, 場面 is actually shiin rather than bamen, so I changed that word back. (永久の命＝一瞬の場面 is an amazing line ... and BTW that song was the first Vocaloid song I ever heard.) ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:25, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

Um please don't forget my question about 感情を / 消せない in ラウンダバウト above. おねがいします ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:45, November 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late reply, I've been very busy IRL.
 * 心揺らし　溢れ出す感情を 消せない弱さに　声を枯らした is a continuous phrase yet is kinda ungrammatical. "(I let(past) my) voice wither by the weakness of not being able to erase (my) feelings that shook (my) heart and poured out" (lit.) or "I was lost for words 'cause I was so weak and couldn't shut off those wavering and pouring feelings." Damesukekun (talk) 15:40, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * やっぱり！ Thank you for clarifying.
 * Please no need to apologize. You're very kind giving us as much help as you do. I just wanted to make sure that you didn't miss the question. ElectricRaichu (talk) 20:16, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Dark Prince Translation
Thank you for your help with my translation. It was an old one, and I haven't had time to fix it, haha.

2bricacity (talk) 16:28, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re: ConstellationRailroad
Don't worry, you're not bothering me. Thank you for telling me, actually. I'll remove them after I've posted this message =).

Amandelen (talk) 15:18, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

デイニー
I'm having trouble understanding 手を繋いでほしかったんだ. Does it mean she wanted him to take her hand, or to hold hands together?

And in the next line はりぼての姿だけど What looked like はりぼて? Was it his hand, her hand, himself, herself?

Also, Do you have any idea what デイニー means? Is it just a name?

Thanks in advance for any explanation you might offer. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:48, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I need to make some research. Give me a few days. Damesukekun (talk)
 * Sorry for this late reply. I couldn't find out what デイニー meant. I added a description about the title.
 * 手を繋いでほしかったんだ means she wanted him to take her hand.
 * 手をつなぎたい. → I want to take your hand.
 * 手をつないでほしい. → I want you to take my hand.
 * はりぼて in this song is used in a metaphoric way. This suggests she was a coward girl though she pretended to be strong. Damesukekun (talk) 13:21, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

Oh OK, thanks for the explanation and for investigating. How do you know that はりぼての姿 refers to the girl and not the guy? Is it just by context (because it makes more sense that way), or is there something grammatical in the sentence that indicates this? ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:41, December 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * You know who the はりぼて is just by the context like other Japanese sentences which seem vague. Unfortunately there is no grammatical clue in this case. Damesukekun (talk) 14:56, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

よつばのクローバー
I noticed you changed my translation for Yotsuba no Clover. Can I please at least be credited for the original translation?Awesomejellystar (talk) 20:50, December 27, 2015 (UTC)awesomejellystar
 * I made a correct translation without referring any of your words. Yours had many grave mistakes that totally overturned the lyrics and I'm sorry but we don't put someone's name who doesn't understand Japanese as a translator. Damesukekun (talk) 11:50, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

終末メモリーズ
ダメスケクンさん、あけましておめでとうございます！

I asked the composer of 終末メモリーズ to clarify what Miku is saying in place of 真実 in verse 6 line 3, and he said, 真実と書いて「こえ」と歌わせてます. 無理やり過ぎですが、大人の事情と言う事で So it's "koe" as I thought, but do you know what 大人の事情 means? (Sorry, I looked it up but I'm not any wiser ...) Do you think the suggestion is that the voice is telling the truth that perhaps she doesn't want to hear? つまり、心のなかに事実を言う声が聞こえるのを暗示すると思いますか. ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:55, January 11, 2016 (UTC) Where do they say 大人の事情? I made some research but I couldn't find the source. 大人の事情 usually means sexual things that are inappropriate for children, but there's no sensual word in the lyrics. The lyrics are very vague and I don't know what 真実―こえ means either, but I think your interpretation is right. Damesukekun (talk) 11:39, January 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late reply. I totally missed this message.

Thanks for the reply and sorry for any confusion. 大人の事情って、歌詞にはありません. 「真実（こえ）」の意味を作曲家に聞きましたが、「無理やり過ぎですが、大人の事情と言う事で」と答えてくれました. I didn't understand his reply very well, but at least your explanation is helpful. I'll go with my current interpretation. ElectricRaichu (talk) 20:48, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

君のトナリ
I had a go at translating 君のトナリ. but I'm a bit unsure about the following: Hopefully my translation is close, but I would like to sub the video, so would you be able to check at least those points? ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:17, January 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * v2. 「えー、そぉかなぁ・・・」なんて ちょっと可愛いじゃない “Yeah, maybe …” you say cutely.
 * v3. 口に出来ない思いを乗せて letting myself feel things I can't put into words.
 * v6. 弾けそうな気持ちを抱えて I think I'm going to burst.
 * Perfect! I love your translating. Damesukekun (talk) 06:36, January 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * どうもありがとうございました. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:56, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Re: About Using Other People's Translations
It's actually in the guidelines already but I'll also put a notice about it on top of the page. I think I'll also just start removing translation if they aren't credited, since like you said they're mostly mistranslations.

Amandelen (talk) 11:17, February 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * I missed the notice, but thank you for the update. Damesukekun (talk) 14:45, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

もういいかい
Hi, sorry to trouble you again, but I have a lot of difficulties with もういいかい. I have a few other uncertainties but they're the main ones. I'd appreciate any help. If you have time, feel free to edit anything that's wrong. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:16, February 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you agree that the sense of "もういいかい" is "am I good enough yet"?
 * 子ども扱いしないで？ is in the form of a request but has a question mark. What do you think that it means?
 * いつになればって I'm guessing a bit here but I translated it "Tell me it'll happen one day." Does that OK?
 * Similarly I translated もしかしたらって as "Tell me it might perhaps happen one day."
 * １引く２０で Doesn't that mean 1 &minus; 20? I'm not sure how to interpret it ...
 * It seems もういいかい is from children's hide-and-seek game.　In the Japanese hide-and-seek, おに "it" asks もういいかい "are you ready?" before starting the game. Hiding children reply もういいよ "we're okay" if they are ready and まあだだよ "not yet" if they are not. もういいかい 「もういいよ」言って conveys the idea that the boy feels he has grown up enough to date with the girl and wants her to say yes.
 * 子ども扱いしないで？ is a misuse of question mark. If you keep or delete the question mark, it's okay.
 * いつになればって literally means " '(the word) when' is". I think "I don't know when you say yes" or something like this would be better.
 * もしかしたらって I think "I don't know if I you might say yes" or so would be fine.
 * １引く２０で is a nonsense phrase on purpose. The author's intention is not clear for me, but your translation is good.

Damesukekun (talk) 08:45, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Oh I see. Thanks so much. I'll take all your helpful comments into consideration! Actually, I think the allusion is to Blind Man's Buff (目隠し鬼) because of 目隠し in the first verse.

「もういっかい」ありがとうございました. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:53, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Damesukekun! I'd like to ask you if Achamo's translation http://www.animelyrics.com/doujin/vocaloid/strobelight.htm or ikuy398's is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sKs7INaEoA better? Wintear (talk) 17:42, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

水際の碧色
In 水際の碧色, GUMI sings "mizugiwa" in the third verse instead of "migiwa", so unless there's another reason, probably the title should agree with the lyrics. If someone might read it as "migiwa", then we should have a redirect from "migiwa" to "mizugiwa". ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:51, February 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * My bad. Corrected the title. Damesukekun (talk) 08:41, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

ツキノウタ
Hi, it's me again. In ツキノウタ, I find the line ツキノウタ　もう君に　聞かせられずに (2nd last verse) confusing. It's so ambiguous. Who is doing the kiku to who/what, who is doing the saseru, is it passive or potential?


 * 1) The existing translation interprets it as 僕が君に歌を聞かせることはできない (君が歌を聞く, 僕がさせる, potential): I can't let you hear the song.

However, in Kid's English version of the song (NB not a literal translation), it says "Won't Sound of Moon let me reach you any more". This is also ambiguous as "reach" could imply "I don't hear you" or "You don't hear me", but it suggests that interpretation 3 is the intended meaning.
 * 1) Another interpretation is 君が僕に歌を聞かさない (僕が歌を聞く, 君がさせる, passive): You don't let me hear the song.
 * 2) Another interpretation is ツキノウタが君に僕を聞かせることはできない (君が僕を聞く, 歌がさせる, potential). The song can't let you hear me.
 * 3) One more I can see is 君がツキノウタに僕を聞かさない but I don't think this makes too much sense: You don't let the song hear me.

On the other hand, what makes most sense to me is that the song is preventing me from hearing you. However, that does not match the possible grammatical interpretations.

Do you have an interpretation or opinion? Have I made a mistake somewhere? Could you please advise? ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:53, March 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * I support Blacksaingrain's interpretation. The full sentence would the most certainly be "（僕が）　ツキノウタ（を）　もう　君に　聞かせられずに". The Japanese language tends to avoid inanimate subjects, so ツキノウタ wouldn't be the subject in this sentence. We often describe this rule as "日本語は無生物主語を嫌う". (However, this phrase has an inanimate subject. What a paradox!)
 * The English version is the English version. As you mentioned, this is not a literal translation so what the English lyrics say doesn't influence the interpretation of original Japanese lyrics. Damesukekun (talk) 04:58, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

OK thank you! That rule is a useful guidline to bear in mind. ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:06, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, it reminds me of an English rule that also contradicts itself: A preposition is not a word to end a sentence with! ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:46, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

∞/Kid-P
Hi, it's me again. おじゃまします.

Someone has asked me to translate the song featured in Kid's latest video, ∞. I had a go, but I'm not sure what is intended by キメ続ける (= 決め続ける ??) in verses 3 and 8, and I'm quite lost with 余裕はミリ成分 in verse 11. If you have any ideas pleas let me know.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:41, March 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * キメる originally means "to take drugs and get high". 薬の効果が現れる(キマる)ように、薬を服用することを意味する語. 転じて大麻など違法な薬物を使用することを意味することがある. In this case Kid-P seems to mean "to an excessive degree" or something like this.
 * ミリ成分 is a recent slang word (but I don't think this word is common among teens yet) meaning very few or little thing(s). One millimeter > very small. Damesukekun (talk) 21:20, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. So 余裕はミリ成分 means 余裕はあまりない? But 何の余裕? I'm having trouble interpreting the verse. Any ideas? ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:41, March 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * When we say just 余裕, it usually means 心の余裕 or 気持ちの余裕, roughly translated as a state of being relaxed. Judging from the context, 余裕はミリ成分 suggests Len's reckless steps toward the future. Damesukekun (talk) 11:40, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:04, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

僕が僕に帰れる場所
I translated the heading of this song as "The Place Where I Can Come Back to Myself", but I just had a look at Niconico, and someone has translated it as "I Am the Place I Come Home To". Since both interpretations are possible, I thought I'd ask you if you had any opinion on which is the most suitable. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:08, March 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * I take your translation. "I am the place I come home to" is a mistranslation. Damesukekun (talk) 22:51, March 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:42, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Satisfaction/kz
Hi, I recently translated Satisfaction/kz (though I did it while not logged in, so it appears as if a wikia contributor did so) but I just want to make absolutely sure that I didn't mess up, and if I did, I am very sorry. Ohjesusohboy (talk) 04:49, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. Checked and updated your translation. Thank you for your contribution. Damesukekun (talk) 07:42, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, I took the liberty of improving some of the English wording, e.g., we don't say "flap with your arms" (that means use your arms to make something else flap!), we just say "flap your arms", and we usually say "look straight ahead" to mean "look only ahead". ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:19, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your correction. I left as many OJOB's expressions as they are. Damesukekun (talk) 13:14, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

ん+な Column Transliteration
Hi !

Sorry, I didn't know about that ! Tha,k you for telling me.

Rachinaf (talk) 08:24, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

RING RING
I'm trying to translate RING RING, but there are some ambiguities I thought I would need to ask a native speaker about.
 * 1) vv. 4, 8, 9, 二人試すようなこの電話と鏡ね: The particles are left out, but following the inanimate subject principle you mentioned, I think that they are testing the phone and mirror, not the phone and mirror testing them. Do you agree?
 * 2) last v., 音符　強く重ねて: Do you think this means playing notes simultaneously or playing notes successively (重ねる has two meanings)? Since they can sing in harmony, I've opted for the simultaneous sense, but I would like to check if that is a valid interpretation.
 * 3) last v. 重ねて: Do you think the -te form is used to indicate a request as I have translated? Alternatively, ending a sentence in -te could mean like 重ねる. それで、… (which annoys me when Japanese people do that because it's so hard to understand what is implied).

Thanks in advance. ElectricRaichu (talk) 11:25, April 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * First question. The sentence is unusual and hard to understand for native speakers too. My intuition says 二人試すようなこの電話と鏡ね would be "This phone and this mirror trick us two" or something like this. I think this matches the context best.
 * Second question. 重ねる (transitive v.) and 重なる (intransitive v.) usually mean simultaneous movements in Japanese.
 * Third question. ように comes after て in this case. て~ように connection makes a "so that" idiom so your interpretation is right. Damesukekun (talk) 04:23, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks for your help. In that case I'll go with the phone/mirror tricking them. That was my original thought, but I couldn't find any support for 試す used that way, and the dictionary only gives the narrow sense of "調べ確かめる". ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:27, April 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, 試す means "to test, to try". But this phrase is a word play so maybe your and my original thoughts are what the author means. Damesukekun (talk)

Re: Postposition の
Hello,

Thank you for the information, but the titles that you corrected weren't actually added by me. I tend to avoid adding English titles unless I'm absolutely sure that they are correct, and if you look at the edit history of the pages you can see that I didn't add them.

Amandelen (talk) 08:54, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for doing that. I appreciate that. Coxal15 (talk) 15:39, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

星屑オーケストラ
Hi I made some further amendments to 星屑オーケストラ. I'm letting you know in case I got something wrong. Anyway, if I misinterpreted something, please feel free to change it back. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:25, April 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) The first time stardust is mentioned, it sounds strange to say "the" because that would mean that the listener is already familiar with this bit of stardust. The second and subsequent times you should say "the" because by then the listener is familiar with it.
 * 2) Stardust is uncountable so you can't say "a small stardust". Even "the small startdust" is awkward, so I've changed it to "a/the small bit of stardust".
 * 3) For 僕の生きた証, I changed "proof of life" back to "proof that I had lived" . Proof of life means proof that someone or something is still alive or that life exists (生命の証明). E.g., "is there proof of life on Mars?"
 * 4) "Even if I'm not here no more" is ungrammatical (double negative). You can say "Even if I'm not here any more" (casual) or "Even if I'm here no more" (rather formal, but I think it sounds better to me here). ちなみに, the previous translation "Even if I'm no more" is perfectly correct, but it's a bit literary so I think it might be obscure to some readers.
 * 5) 例えばもし僕が生まれ変わっても sounds hypothetical to me so I worded it "Even if I were to be reborn." Sorry but your version "Even though I would be reborn" sounds a bit strange to me. I would interpret it as "In a certain situation I will be reborn, but unfortunately when that happens [I'll play this melody ...]" because "though" tends to give the consequence a negative connotation, like のに in Japanese.
 * Thank you for your correction. I learned a lot. Damesukekun (talk) 14:09, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re:You Latest Translations
I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get what you were trying to get across with your examples, since 잘 보세요 does mean 'look at something carefully'(in the general context at least), and I have no idea what you mean by 많으로 보세요, since that is far from grammatical. Did you mean 많이 보세요? I don't know if you ran your Japanese through Google translate or not, but even that isn't a natural sentence if you're trying to mean 'look at something carefully'. 많이 보다 means 'to look at something many times', and to overlook is 넘겨보다. I'm really sorry to say this, but I'm not sure that you are fluent enough in Korean to explain the whole Korean-Japanese dynamic to me.

But still, I understand that you're just trying to tell me that I shouldn't try translating. I'll refrain from tackling Japanese songs from now on, but I do want to tell you that I have never translated Yume no Katachi. I have no idea why you thought I did, but I didn't. Whatever translation was there before you did it, it wasn't mine.

Streetneko (talk) 00:39, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * Your name was on the Yume no Katachi page as the translator, but I understand. Damesukekun (talk) 13:28, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

MISTRANSALTION
Hey,responding to your comment.I am very sorry about the mistake.I did copy it off a youtube video.I didnt know it was a mistransaltion.Sorry

107.4.164.243 02:22, June 3, 2016 (UTC)Yandere Miku107.4.164.243 02:22, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * If you don't understand Japanese to tell good and bad translations, you shouldn't blindly copy other people's translations without research. You're going to share the responsibility of spreading mistranslations. Damesukekun (talk) 06:43, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

想う事 in "wing"
Hi, I've attempted to translate wing, but I've left out the translation for the recurring phrase 想う事. I realize it means "what I feel/think" but I'm unsure how it fits in with the words that follow. I would appreciate your opinion or suggestions. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:08, July 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * The phrase is vague and I'm not fully sure of it, but 想う事 and 今ボクのキモチ seem apposition words. "Right here I give to you my thoughts, my feelings as they are right now ." would be good. Damesukekun (talk) 14:18, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks. I'll think about it a bit more along those lines and see where it leads. ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:31, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

コンストレイション strange credit
If you look at the video for コンストレイション, There's a strange credit "ほよほよ飼育係" at 0:35 into the song. Do you have any idea what it means? Tuning (調声) was credited earlier to 応援歌P and ニクロムP. ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:15, July 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi. ほよほよ飼育係 is the team of 応援歌P, つきのP and ニクロムP. Damesukekun (talk) 12:46, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

そうですか！ Thanks for the explanation. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:42, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

あなたの居る場所へ
Hi, I'm trying to translate あなたの居る場所へ, but I can't figure out the second verse.


 * すれ違った　笑顔の他人(ひと)が　不意にあなたと　重なるのです

Literally, it would read it as "A smiling person passing by unexpectedly lies on top of you" but that's rather silly! I thought maybe "Smiling people are passing by and you unexpectedly turn up among them", but that contradicts the next line that says he's going home to where she is: さぁ帰ろう　あなたの居る場所へ. Do you have any ideas how to interpret it?

ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:45, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's "A smiling person passing by unexpectedly reminds me of you." Damesukekun (talk) 13:50, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:04, September 28, 2016 (UTC)

少年覚醒クライシス
I'm trying to translate 少年覚醒クライシス by a new producer, Pinokinoko. Do have any idea what キレそ　はい、おつ means? Some other lines are also a bit tricky for me, so if you have time, could you please have a look? ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:05, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * In this case the three words are interjections conveying negative feelings. Damesukekun (talk) 01:36, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

きりん
Hi, sorry to trouble you again, but I'm having trouble with the following line in this crazy song.


 * サバンナじこみの太陽も はだしで逃げ出す熱視線

I think it's referring to how the leopard was staring at the giraffe. Do you think it means "a stare so intense that even the savannah sun would run away barefoot" (太陽 is the subject of 逃げ出す) or "a stare so intense that even someone brought up under the savannah sun would run away barefoot" (generic subject) or something else? ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:13, October 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * I take the first one. サバンナじこみの太陽 sounds ungrammatical and weird anyway. Damesukekun (talk) 14:16, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks, I'm glad you thought it's strange too.

Sorry, I forgot to ask about another line near the end: 黄色黒はっきりついたのかな. I can't understand why there is a doubt or question. Does ついた refer to the "picture" being coloured yellow and black, or am I missing something? ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:01, October 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * This seems a spoof on 白黒はっきりする/白黒はっきりつける "Make it clear" "Say yes or no clearly". However I'm not fully sure about my interpretation. Damesukekun (talk) 15:02, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

So kiirokuro is a pun on shirokuro&mdash;I would never have guessed! Thanks so much, it makes sense now. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:33, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

SING＆SMILE
Hello! I tentatively revised your translation of SING＆SMILE as I felt that the English was a bit stilted, and I was wondering if you would check my work: http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?diff=122390. Thanks! —umbreon 126 07:11, October 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your edit. We'll use this version. Damesukekun (talk) 14:09, October 21, 2016 (UTC)

Real English Translation
Good afternoon, Damesukekun. I would just like to ask something: What is the real English translation of the song Ageha Glow? Is it Swallowtail Glow or Swallowtail Butterfly Glow? In the Vocaloid Wiki, "Swallowtail Glow" is the English translation used there while "Swallowtail Butterfly Glow" is used in this wiki.

08:24, November 1, 2016 (UTC) ​ 08:24, November 1, 2016 (UTC) ​ 08:24, November 1, 2016 (UTC) ​


 * Alc Jp-En/En-Jp dictionary says the both words mean the papilionidae butterflies, but "swallowtail butterfly" seems better to get rid of ambiguity. I'll update the Vocaloid Wiki page. Damesukekun (talk) 13:32, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Request
Hey, there! Um... I'm going to be creating a comic along with three other creators. However, that's not the only thing I'll be aiming for. I'm going to animate particular stuff about the comics, and see, I need your help translating the lyrics I've made to Japanese. I'm only making a song for a friend (with my hand-drawn video). That's really all you have to do. But I understand if you don't have any time! I wish we could collaborate with some music some time, though. You seem like a cool person.

Buttercupsnas (talk) 13:54, November 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Can you send me the lyrics at damesukekun(at)live.jp ? Damesukekun (talk) 15:26, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Translation
Hi, Amandelen suggest me to ask u about my translation. do u mind that can u help me to check out my translation.

Vocaloid- Galanthus

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B08kfkeoh_scV1E2ZEtkeTZDVUU

KHTunaZCG (talk) 10:48, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

thank you so much for your edit. i get it more and more. i know that my translate skill is weaked but i didn't see whoever translate this song. actually it've eng sub from one person but it's called ENG DUB prefer ENG SUB ==" i'm not satisfy so i'll try JP-En translation.

can i ask u about letter for my learning? i wonder that

"orakuen" --> "paradise"?

"ojousama" --> "Queen"?

 i search on google translate it's "our castle's king" and "princess" it's a synonym,isn't it?

 KHTunaZCG (talk) 17:38, December 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * I translated the first part of the song. I'm sorry but I have to say you made many grave mistakes both in your Japanese and English. I suggest you refrain from making Jp-En translations unless you fluently read and write the languages. Neither Japanese nor English is your native tongue. Damesukekun (talk) 14:38, December 9, 2016 (UTC)




 * Excuse me for coming into your conversation but castle/paradise is a bit complicated. It appears to be using ruby, i.e., the words sung aloud is rakuen "paradise", while the lyrics use the word oshiro "castle", to indicate that it's actually a castle but that the speaker regards it as their paradise. This is difficult to translate into English. Usually I find one word (paradise or castle) will make better sense, but in this case I would personally add both words to convey the full meaning: "This is our castle, our paradise: I am the king, you are the princess." (Incidentally, it's not ojousama "lady", it's oujosama "princess". ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:27, December 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for your suggest ElectricRaichu, i know that JPN have many synonym, actually it's so hard ==a i'm thinking my country language can easier translate ENG-JP KHTunaZCG (talk)12:09, December 11, 2016


 * Don't forget to put your signature with four tildes. Damesukekun (talk) 12:29, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

especially
Hi, I'm having some trouble with understanding some lines in especially. Would you be able to help me?

つかまえたひところの　ほんのりあわいこころ -- I interpreted this as "I catch a moment from my fuzzy thoughts" but I'm really not sure who tsukamaeted what when. I'm not familiar with ひところ. Does it mean 一時, かつて, 一瞬, ...?

私に満ちた　尽きない予感も / あなたに満ちた　まばゆい鼓動も -- "My endless premonitions, your beautiful heartbeat." Does 予感 usually have bad connotations in Japanese (like "foreboding") or is it neutral (like "premonition"? Would you interpret it as concern about the どんなになっても in the next line? Also, I'm not familiar with まばゆい. Is "beautiful" a reasonable interpretation? The dictionary lists both まぶしい and 美しい as meanings.

I appreciate any suggestions or improvements you may have. ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:02, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * つかまえたひところの～ is a bit ungrammatical and hard to interpret. My dictionary (現代国語例解辞典, 小学館) says ひところ means "以前のある時期 a certain period in the past", and あわいこころ often appears in the phrase 淡い恋心. My intuition says "Among the soft morning smells I catch/find those old sentimental feelings for you".
 * 予感 is used in both good and bad ways in Japanese. In this song the word conveys positive feelings. まばゆい means "dazzling" and it always carries positive meaning. I think "My endless anticipations and the dazzling/brilliant heartbeats that fill you, whatever may happen I want to always cherish them as they are" is what the author means. Damesukekun (talk) 03:13, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your explanations and suggestions. Very helpful as always! ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:02, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to ask your help again
u told me that refrain from ENG-JP translate but it's more my motivate so i can't give up it about my education. but i can ask about eng translate,can't I? (puppy's eyes wink! wink!)

BUT THIS TIME it's my translate, i get Eng translate from youtube so i ask u that it's worth to put it on this wikia,isnt it?

I hope that u don't mind (tremble)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B08kfkeoh_sceV9lazczVkduVE0/view?usp=sharing

KHTunaZCG (talk) 12:41, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

足して2で割るSPL > I add and divide SPL by two

想いハジけるSummer Drinking > Our minds soar up with this Summer Drinking

寝ぼけないでよ > Awake now (lit. Don't be half-asleep)

ほら！飲み干してよ > Hey! Drink it up!

ハートの奥をしっかり刺激して > And let it excite your heart to the bottom

You still have a long way to go. You mistranslated a simplest phrase. I strongly suggest again that you stop translating Japanese stuff. Damesukekun (talk) 14:12, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. this isn't my translate, i got from User's Youtube

i ask some question that  ハジけ and  はじけ aren't same mean?

君の肩に手を置いた僕にさらにはじけ出した

my hand put on your shoulder, afterwards we're separate.

i mistake it,right?

KHTunaZCG (talk) 09:06, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

HoneyWorks Wolf
Could you translate bubbles too?

YuzuYuzura (talk) 14:31, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm busy IRL currently. I'll do it later. Damesukekun (talk) 06:17, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

大嫌いなはずだった.
Hey if you can translate that song that would be great. I can understand most of it but there are some parts that I think you have to be a Japanese schoolkid to understand the nuances. Tell me, my first reaction to the title was "I thought I hated you", but when I read how the phrase is used in the song, it seems to be about her hating his directness, which is why I translated it "I thought I hated it" or something like that. ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:50, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking about just what you point out. "Hate you" sounds strong for this song. I'll listen to the song and watch the video again and get the nuances. Damesukekun (talk) 05:30, December 20, 2016 (UTC)

Re: 大嫌いなはずだった. (Daikirai na Hazu Datta.)
I see. Thank you for letting me know.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 13:17, December 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Translation Check
Hello,

I can't really say anything about the Jp->Eng translation itself as I'm nowhere close to fluent in Japanese, but you are right that the English seems to be a bit clumsy. For example: "Your wavering eyes/Devours me" should be "Your wavering eyes/Devour me". I also have no idea what a "virginal hunter" is supposed to be. The kanji that's supposed to mean "virginal" is 未熟, but my dictionary says it means something like "immature" or "unskilled", and "virginal" means something like "pure" or "fresh". I'm not sure if that's enough to say that they aren't fluent in English (some English natives are bad at writing/typing and can't form grammatically correct sentences, even though it's their mother tongue), but the author was definitely sloppy when writing the English translation.

Amandelen (talk) 11:31, December 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your opinion. Though I'm not a native English speaker, I do think his/her English isn't fluent and is sometimes difficult to understand. He/She is an unrecommended translator. Damesukekun (talk) 12:03, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

ask help about translate
excuse me, can i ask u something about JP translate? i can't DO it, my brain exploding btoom btoom

磔にされた心

in ENG (someone translate);  Our hearts are spellbound

but i'm search " 磔" mean Crucifix

so what word is right? plz answer me, t hank you so much

early sentence かけられる言葉重く

ps. this song is kimi no sekai boku no sekai

KHTunaZCG (talk) 10:27, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

月に船たび
I've been working on 月に船たび and I'm having trouble with a few bits. In verse 9 do you know what のに and バイミー mean? Could you please have a look? Also in verse 4 there's 揺れてら which I've never seen before. ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:44, January 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * The composer seems to misuse the word 間に間 as "between". The verse would be "Between the dreamy reality and rarely-granted miracles we the sailors sing at daybreak".
 * I think バイミー is "by me", but I'm not fully sure. Damesukekun (talk) 11:18, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

OK thanks, we'll go with that. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:30, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

泣き虫夢見人
I'm struggling a bit with verse 6 of 泣き虫夢見人. If you get some time, could you please have a look? Specifically, I'm not sure of the omitted subjects and what she means by niramuing someone from behind. I thought it suggests someone is up to no good. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:30, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * The paragraph is in represented speech. I tweaked a few sentences. Other than those I found no mistakes. Good job. Damesukekun (talk) 14:15, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:59, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

下品な男
Sorry to trouble you again. There's been some interest in 下品な男 recently so I'd like to make a sub for it, but there are a few points I'm uncertain about. Sorry for so many questions ... Any help would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:44, February 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) v.1 Just confirming, does 奪われる refer to [女性の]心が奪われる, i.e., she falls for him?
 * 2) v.5 I can't see how 男としての relates to the verse. 僕, 資質 and 不恰好さ refer to his former girlfriend.
 * 3) v.8 Just confirming, is the speech by the current girlfriend?
 * 4) v.8 Could you help me with 便乗? I looked it up but the usage here doesn't quite match the dictionary definition.
 * 5) v.9 思いが笑いのネタに替えられる means her feelings are being replaced by joke material. But I understand 替える to mean 物がなくなって、代わりに他の物がある. I assume it's trying to say that her feelings are being used as joke fodder, not replaced. Or have I got it wrong?
 * v.1 You are right. The girl falls for the vulgar guy.
 * v.5 男としての is the modifier and 僕の資質 is the modifee. "my quality as a man". Your translation is correct. (Is I a typo?)
 * v.8 Yes, it is. The current boyfriend is telling the girlfriend to think again about dating with the vulgar guy.
 * I think "go along with" for 便乗 meets the context in this case. :)
 * v.9 思いが笑いのネタに替えられる means the feelings of current boyfriend are treated as a joke.
 * Sorry for this late reply, I've been busy IRL for a week. Damesukekun (talk) 13:13, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I think I did misinterpret something but you've cleared it up. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:17, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Shinitagari Translation Check
Hi Damesukekun, I just was wondering if you could check over Shinitagari's English translation. It's right here.Thanks so much!

NayruBlue (talk) 23:47, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

I had a quick look and I found a few errors. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:57, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Miekeuyt is on the unrecommended translators list. (Main article.) Removed. Damesukekun (talk) 08:17, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Question About Translations
There are a lot of translators out there, and of course not all of them are on the translators list. So, if I want to add English lyrics to a song page and the translator isn't on any list, should I add the lyrics and then message either you or ElectricRaichu, or message with a link to the lyrics and then add them after I get the go-ahead? Thanks!

NayruBlue (talk) 21:44, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Can you make a request of translation check on my tutorial? The comment box is at the bottom of the page. Damesukekun (talk) 14:00, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Question about あなただけのミクでいたいから‥
There's a line in the song in verse 4, 私こんなんでゴメンね. I'm thinking it means konna n[o] de "I'm sorry for things such as these", but could it mean konnan (困難) de "I'm sorry that I have difficulties"? ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:31, March 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * It's "I'm sorry for things such as these". Or simply "I'm sorry for being like this". Damesukekun (talk) 12:30, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:59, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

空に宛てて
Sorry for troubling you again so soon but I have a favour to ask. Could you please carefully review my translation for 空に宛てて? I'm confident it's OK, but Otooto-P has told me that it's a special song he wrote about a very personal loss and to treat the song carefully, so I thought it would be a good idea to ask a Japanese native speaker to check I've understood it correctly. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:09, March 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello. Checked and tweaked some phrases. Damesukekun (talk) 13:19, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks so much! ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:16, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Hetakuso Utopia Seisaku
If it's alright, I would like to ask you a question about a line,.

My understanding of it is ↓ ↓

but the translation on the page
 * 1) splits it into two sentences
 * 2) seems to treat   as equivalent to   or something
 * 3) interprets   as being about the singer, instead of.

Am I wrong? —umbreon 126 07:04, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * You are right. I updated Occasional's translation. Damesukekun (talk) 20:04, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Adding English Translations
Sorry to bother you, but there's something I'd like to ask about, regarding English translations.

I first added an English translation a while ago, it was then temporarily removed, checked, & re-added afterwards; I recieved a message from Amandelen informing me of this whilst the process was being under-gone.

I've since added multiple translations & pages, by the producers Lemm & effe, & each has had the English translation removed. Are these translations under-going the same process, or do they not meet the guide-lines? Or is it that I'm supposed to request a translation-check or else, before adding an English translation, if not a recommended translator?

Thank you for your time.

KiriyaTooru3 (talk) 16:30, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

この空の下で ～待ってるからね～
I have a couple of questions about this song. Would you be able to help? Firstly, while I understand the words, I'm having trouble grasping the gist of the song. I think it's about someone who has been separated from a close friend and longs for a reunion, do you agree? Secondly, I'm not entirely sure of the sense of the lines I marked (?). What exactly does the narrator wish to koeru? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:14, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. Your interpretation is right. I made a slight change on the question-marked line. Other than that I found no mistake. Good work. Damesukekun (talk) 04:43, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Yes, most of it was straightforward, I just wasn't sure if I was missing something. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:17, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Translation Services
Hi! I'm planning to pay some professional translators to translate some of the songs on the wiki. I'm making sure that the translator I use is certified by the ATA and that they are accepted by the USCIS. Is this okay? I don't think I can provide any sample documents but all the people who translate Japanese are at JLPT N1 or N2. Thanks for your help!!

NayruBlue (talk) 20:08, August 12, 2017 (UTC) http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p08_berne_convention I don't think it a good idea that you pay money for fan translations that openly go against the international treaty. Damesukekun (talk) 01:00, August 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Strictly speaking unauthorized fan translations, including my ones, violate copyright laws under Berne Convention, of which most developed countries are members.

Good point. If lyrics have been released under a CC licence or similar (e.g. on piapro), it might be OK, but most lyrics would have this issue. ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:12, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

That's a very good point. I guess the only thing I can do is look for lyrics released under something like that and do those. Thanks again!!

NayruBlue (talk) 03:15, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

The Forgotten Song
Hi! Would you mind checking the last couple of stanzas' translation? The parts in parentheses don't seem to flow all that well. Thank you so much!!

NayruBlue (talk) 19:41, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

ハートビートは加速する
I've translated ハートビートは加速する but I'm having trouble with いうこと聞かない胸に about half way down in v. 4. Do you have any ideas what いうこと might refer to? Do you think 聞かない refers to his heart not hearing what she says or to his chest disobeying what he says or ...? ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:34, August 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. Tweaked the phrases. Damesukekun (talk) 14:52, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

はやくそれになりたい！
http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%81%AF%E3%82%84%E3%81%8F%E3%81%9D%E3%82%8C%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8A%E3%81%9F%E3%81%84%EF%BC%81_(Hayaku_Sore_ni_Naritai!)?diff=prev&oldid=191002 Could you check/edit this translation?

Oneway Journey
I have a couple of questions about Oneway Journey verse 3 where it says 感傷なんて誰にも言わせない.

Do you think it means "I won't let you say anything sentimental to anyone" or "I won't let anyone say anything sentimental"? Does 誰に indicate who is (not) being told, or who is (not) being allowed to say? Or is it ambiguous?

Also, would you think "sentimental" is a good translation? JE dictionaries list 感傷 as "sentimentality", but if I look up the Japanese definition of 感傷 and the English definition for "sentimental", they don't seem to say the same thing :(

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:25, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * In this case, 感傷なんて is the subsidiary object and 誰にも is the direct object.
 * The word-to-word translation is
 * (I) will not let anyone  say that (this is) such a thing as a sentimental feeling.
 * 感傷なんて 誰にも  言わ せない
 * 感傷 is a noun but I don't think "sentimentality" is a good translation. I usually say "sentimental feelings". Damesukekun (talk) 15:00, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, makes more sense now. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:47, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Abuse Report
No need to apologise and thank you for telling me about your concerns. I've sent them a message like you asked. I hope the problem is solved now. If they do it again they'll be temporarily banned.

Amandelen (talk) 19:44, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

I've removed their comments and they've been blocked for harassing users.

Amandelen (talk) 06:55, September 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Damesukekun (talk) 08:36, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the Romaji transliteration of Celestial Fox
Hello, Damesukekun. Today, I browsed the articles of Celestial Fox in both in this wiki and in the Vocaloid Wiki. However, I noticed that the Romaji transliterations of the articles for the song are slightly different: the article in the Vocaloid Wiki uses Amatsu Kitsune while the article in this wiki uses Amatsukitsune. So which of the two do you see is the correct Romaji transliteration of Celestial Fox? May I know? Thanks!

10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​
 * I think Amatsukitsune is the better. Damesukekun (talk) 12:11, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding this one particular Japanese word
So, I have been observing this following line in the song Kimagure Mercy:

Japanese: 少しくらい期待させて（もう…）

English: But let me have some hope, won’t you? (Jeez…)

And one Japanese word that got my attention for quite some time now was もう.

When I looked up for the meanings of もう, one result that I got is that it translates to "already". But looking up further, it seems that it translates to more than one word or so.

So in the case of the line I wrote above in Kimagure Mercy, does もう actually translate to "jeez" in this case? Or does it really mean something else?

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ I looked up my two Japanese dictionaries but they don't have the interjection もう. I don't know why. You can search for Alc online Jp-En dictionary. Damesukekun (talk) 13:55, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * In this case もう is an interjection for a negative feeling. You are right.


 * So in this case, does it mean "jeez" then?


 * 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​
 * Yep. Damesukekun (talk) 14:56, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Need help for translation on Mugen Nostalgy
Hi Damesukekun. Would you mind to check my translation on Mugen Nostalgy ?

I'm not a native speaker in both English and Japanese and I'm not familiar with Jap-Eng translation. But I really, really love this song (I looped it for almost two months)... and I hope that you could help me with this translation. ;w;

Thank you in advance for you time!

(sorry for accidently editing other sectors of discussion earlier. I'm still new to this wiki stuff...

MrBlank731 (talk) 09:25, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Your latest edits made the translation better. You can create a page for the song (maybe Amandelen will help you) and I'll edit some lines. Don't forget to add WIP tag. Damesukekun (talk) 09:53, October 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello Blank,


 * Hi again :)
 * The page is up with WIP tag. どうもありがとうございます！
 * MrBlank731 (talk) 08:55, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

人間だった
I'm a bit confused with a couple of lines in 人間だった.

Near the end of the lyrics, 空の掌で受けた 街の中、それをただ眺めていた. She got a town from her empty hands!?!? Is she staring at the town or her hands? Sorry, I'm such a nigate when it comes to kaishaku ...

Also, at about the middle of the song, I'm not sure what is meant by 埋まらない.

Any ideas or corrections would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:40, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Your interpretation "It's just me that isn't satisfied" is right. Damesukekun (talk) 14:10, October 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * 空の掌で受けた 街の中 is a nonsensical phrase. I don't know what Picon wants to say so I translated the phrase as it is.

I had a close look at the way the lyrics were presented in the video and it's a bit different from the lyrics we had. In particular, there was a full stop missing. The correct lyrics should be 僕はただ情けなくて / 空の掌で受けた. / 街の中、それをただ眺めていた.

It makes more sense now but I'm not sure what she ukeru'ed. Do you think it's nasakenasa?

I changed "empty palms" to "empty hands" because I think we usually say empty hands in English (well, at least I usually say it that way). ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:20, October 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, you are right. Thank you for the correction. Damesukekun (talk) 10:21, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Julianna
Hi, I know you're probaby busy with so many requests to check translations, and I was wondering if there was any way I could be of help. I am a 15 year old who is half Japanese, half American, who is actually moving to Japan in a week, but I speak fluent English and Japanese as well as understand both cultures, so if I could be of any help, I would like to make more of a contribution to the Vocaloid community. 何かお手伝い出来る事があれば、喜んでやります. 引っ越しでどれだけインターネットを使う事が出来るのかがまだ不安定なのですが、物事が落ち着けば、毎日このボカロウィキアで活動したいと思います. お忙しい中、失礼しました. 良ければ返事を下さい. ジュリ (talk) 19:53, October 27, 2017 (UTC)ジュリ
 * Thank you for joining this Wiki. I checked your ドラマツルギー translation. Your interpretation is almost accurate, but you made a few misreading of subjects. I suggest you read this tutorial and learn how you restore omitted subjects and objects in Japanese. Damesukekun (talk) 10:18, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

RE Julianna
Hi, thanks for the feedback. If the translatiins isn't accurate enough to be posted, could you tell me some parts where I did some ommitting/other mistakes? I would like to take this as an opportunity to become better at translations so that I can become a better contribution to the wiki. Thank you!

​『ASTER』の英語訳に対する
失礼乍ら、下記のライン意味を成さない：

「What happened yesterday were our two's sins」

「On our familiar way home is a shop we two visited sometime」

「I found a pretty flower, our two's favorite blue flower」、「our two」か「we two」とか、文法的のエラーから

「I'll come to your room with the blue flower and "I'm sorry"」

訂正を申し入れられて呉れるか？

Keila Momoshuya (talk) 11:50, November 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thy Iapanisch es verray ald ant wrang. Damesukekun (talk) 15:03, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

today the future
Hello, I've added the lyrics you made/modified from the YT captions, but I don't know how many people have edited/modified it since you last contributed to it, so could you double check?

http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/TODAY_THE_FUTURE RainySkye (talk) 21:39, November 27, 2017‎ (UTC)
 * No one has edited the translation since my last modification. No problem. Damesukekun (talk) 14:49, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

HEART translation
Hi damesukekun, I hope you had a nice Christmas. I've been struggling with translating a few points in HEART for the last few weeks ... :( I was wondering if you could help me. Here are my difficulties: Any help/advice/suggestions are welcome. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:16, December 28, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Does 私に合わす話題 suggest that he was making the conversation pleasant-sounding for her?
 * 2) I find ...話題は...気づいていた a bit strange. Don't you say ...に気づいていた?
 * 3) With ...のあなたふわり感じると, my impression is that she notices something unpleasant about him lurking behind the smile. However, doesn't ふわり usually have pleasant connotations?
 * 4) 慰めではなくて こころ二人向き合うこと mukiau simply means facing each other, right? I translated it as "confronting" but I'm not confident of the intended meaning.
 * 1. You are right. 合わす/合わせた 話題 literally means "a topic that meets someone's interest".
 * 2. This phrase is ungrammatical. Probably some words are omitted purposely from this phrase and I don't know what they are. However I agree to your translation.
 * 3. あなた（を）ふわり（と）感じる suggests that the girl feels her boyfriend's tacit affection to her - tacit affection. Very East-Asian way of expression of love.
 * 4. 向きあう means "meet face to face", but "confront" sounds a bit strong in this context. I translated it as "let our hearts meet each other".

Damesukekun (talk) 11:31, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

あけましておめでとうございます！ Thanks for helping. If I may ask another question, do you understand why there is a negative vibe ... like why she gets a desire for bitter coffee, and why the regret expressed at the end? I would like to sub this song (eventually ... I got so many requests from my 10 years series) and I want to make sure I have a sensible interpretation. ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:51, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

I noticed you translated 時計を見ると as "when we looked at the watch" which is a bit odd. Maybe they both looked at a clock (on the wall), but my feeling is that he looked at his watch because it says "あなたは　何か言いかけて" (like maybe he's remembered something he has to do?) "私の顔見てやめた / 時計を見ると" suggesting that it's him that is ending the encounter. ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:03, January 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think the bitter coffee carries any negative feelings. The girl just wants to taste the coffee her boyfriend likes to know him better. And my intuition says the omitted subject in 時計を見ると 二人の時間がほら止まりそう is we, not he, for the girl says 「二人の」時間, not 時間 alone. Damesukekun (talk) 02:51, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

Atoropa
済まない、此の英語訳をチェックくれるか？不明確なライン有る気がする. 下記は英語訳：

「I strain my ears

Towards the source of the voice

I made a bridge & crossed the river

I won't look back

At those waving hands

Our song,

I remember it, even now,

It had a gentle, yet harsh sound

Ah,

Always swaying & swaying, ever-so lonely

Walking from the early-summer rain, having delusions of an assault

See, nothing's gonna change

The past will sever the aim of my footsteps

Hey, if, right now

This body was to sink into an abyss,

Would you just watch me with those despising eyes?

Even if you reached out, I'd just want to go further

How shallow I am...

I search for the song that shouldn't exist,

Over & over, with this empty heart

Stronger

A little weaker

Always, closely

Far into the distance

A little deeper

Very shallow

Sure to be longer

But short-lived

Ah,

For how long have the tears been dripping & dripping like this?

Over & over, parting with dreams & scenery

Look, nothing's being scooped out

I leave behind the lies & my quietly developing suspicion

Hey, if, right now,

I stole away that world of yours,

Would you touch only my heart with those hands that push me aside?

I've become aware of the times I'd started to get used to making mistakes

But I'll still never be able to become an adult,

& I surely won't be able to stay here

I plug my ears

From the silent place」

此のままでいい？よくないと思ったら、何のライン変わらなきゃ？ありがとう Keila Momoshuya (talk) 19:11, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Your Message
Ironically, in English, people often tell me that I speak in an overly formal manner, sounding even posh or elderly, I then chose to speak less formally in Japanese to avoid this impression. If I'd over-done it to the extent that I came across as childish or rude, I apologise, that was far from my intention. Aside from that, I am actually learning Japanese, still, using various sources online, & have practised speaking to Japanese people, though mostly in a more casual manner. As for translating the other way round, does what I've submitted still have mistranslations of another sort? Thank you.

Oh, also, I did submit a translation for 'Baby, Baby, It's You', for reference

Keila Momoshuya (talk) 17:00, January 14, 2018 (UTC)

Boys School Parade
Would you be able to help me with verse 5 in ボーイズスクールパレード? I believe I've got the other verses right, I'm confused with verse 5. What is a chalk/choke band, why does a tummy make that sound, and why would a heart want to find a girl!? Any ideas? よろしくお願いします！ ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:35, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you but I was wondering if you had a chance to think about this? ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:10, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * The phrases are ungrammatical and weird. I have no idea what チョークの鼓笛隊 means either, but probably it's chalk band. Other than that I think your interpretation is okay. Damesukekun (talk) 04:30, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks for checking it out for me. Maybe it's recent schoolboy slang? I'll translate it "chalk band" until some comes up with something more definite. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:45, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * I made some research but there was no result :( Damesukekun (talk)

FYI I asked Kid about it and he checked with Zankyou-P. His reply was: 黒板をチョークで文字を書くと「コンコン」と音が鳴る. その音が鼓笛隊みたいな感じに聞こえて、あぁ、お腹が空いたなぁと感じるという残鏡P独特の感性らしいです. He added that translating it "chalk band" is OK. This also explains that the tummy noise is a hunger growl. ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:32, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the inquiry. That makes sense. Damesukekun (talk) 13:33, March 28, 2018 (UTC)

Proofing
Hello, damesukekun! Sorry to bother you when you must be pretty busy around now, but I translated Heart no Atoaji  and Hyoujou Galactica and was wondering if you could proofread them for me?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oSXDsWX_24HaxL42300TNYtMlSYB1BEyNuii9CNpmeE/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/document/d/100vLiyDCVdtOryitojw8fbH573N7yEj_gPtmOgbDQZc/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks in advance.

Tamumumu (talk) 19:00, March 28, 2018 (UTC)

Nonfantasy
I translated Nonfantasy and I'm confident of most of it, but I'm not sure I've got the nuance right on some of the lines. Because it's quite popular (several million views if you include covers), I was wondering if you could check it for me. ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:54, April 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * You did a good job. I tweaked a few phrases.
 * 意識する in love stories means "be aware that one has a crush on someone" with, in most cases, shyness. There is no corresponding expression in English but it's roughly translated as "Feel shy with him/her" or something like that. Damesukekun (talk) 02:30, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, that was quick! Yes 意識 was one of the bits I was unsure of. ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:41, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

星の唄
Hi, me again. I was looking at 星の唄 and I'm having trouble understanding 想うほどいびつに見えた  near the end of the song. The given translation, "I can see you as if you were an elliptical thought," doesn't make sense to me in English and is probably incorrect, but I can't figure out what the Japanese is getting at. "You looked as warped/elliptical as you/I like/feel"? Do you have any ideas? ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:36, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * 想うほど is a shortened form of 想えば想うほど "the more I think of it, the more". The phrase is "The more I think of it, the more it looks distorted" or "My feelings/admiration/adoration for it makes my sight all the more distorted/unclear". The term 想う puts stress on the speaker's feelings more than 思う. Damesukekun (talk) 05:27, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the explanation, it makes sense now. If you don't mind, could you also help me with the lines 信じたいんだ 信じられないんだ / いっそ全て壊してしまえたら? It sounds like it's saying "I want to believe, but I can't, that it would be better if you could wipe everything out". I'm assuming there's an implied いい to complete the sentence. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:49, April 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * You are right, but the problem with this sentence is that the omitted subject is unclear. The omitted subject is I, but the omitted object is neither you nor me, for the context suggests the whole paragraph makes a sentence cluster with the preceding and following paragraphs. I reviewed Dmnngn's translation and removed it. Damesukekun (talk) 23:24, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

I think it's saying that from afar the earth looks beautiful, but close up it's full of conflict. However, I'm not sure if the nuance is that it would therefore be better just to destroy it, or whether it's sounding a warning, "do you guys really think it's better if you could destroy the world?"

Yes I was wanting to replace the previous translation since it had a few mistakes. I've entered the translation I've been working on. I think it's mostly OK, just いっそ全て壊してしまえたら I'm unsure of so I WIPped it. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:34, April 27, 2018 (UTC)


 * I reviewed the translation and made some modifications. I added my name as a co-translator this time. Damesukekun (talk) 15:20, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your help! ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:02, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Translators Lists
私もそう思いました. 過去の考え方は幼くて、翻訳者の責任を知らなかったんです. プロデューサーの許可を問わずに勝手に好きな曲をYoutubeに再投稿して、本当に恥ずかしいですよ. 現在のアカウントを消して、新しいアカウントを開いたらいいと思います. それで、翻訳したい曲があったら、ちゃんとプロデューサーに許可を聞いて、許可されたらビデオをアップロードします. ５年前の私は、現在の私を比べたら、無知で、プロデューサーのことを尊重しなかっただけじゃなくて、ボカロイドファンについ勘違い翻訳を普及されてしまいました. 過去の扱い方が全くふさわしくなかったから、ゼロからもう一回始まりたいです. damesukekunの記事を読んだ後、やっと目を覚められました. 私にとって、曲を翻訳することが趣味で、うっかりにしたことでした. だけど、こんな考え方は違う. damesukekunのおかげで、翻訳者の実際の責任を受け止められるようになって感謝しています. 将来、翻訳の問題が起こったら、ぜひdamesukekunに相談します. 本当の翻訳者になれるようにこれからも頑張ります.

優しい返事されてありがとうございます.

Vaffisuco (talk) 21:44, May 8, 2018 (UTC)Vaffisuco

EZFG Too Shy Shy Boy Tentative English Translation
こんにちは、damesukekunさん. 前のご返事ありがとうございます. これから古いボカロイドの翻訳をやり直して、分からない部分が現れたら、damesukekunさんに聞くことが決まっています. 迷惑をかけてどうも失礼いたします.

では、始めさせていただきます.

「夏の扉はまだノックしないでね. No no knock on wood!」というセリフがちょっと分かりにくくて、つい誤解したかもしれません. 現在の英語翻訳は "Please don't knock on the Summer door yet. No, knock on wood!" インターネットで「夏の扉」を検索しましたが、色々な結果を見つけて、意味がまだ分かりません. もしかして、例えだと思ったけど、やっぱり示されている情報がなさそうです. 抽象的な意味があるかどうか分かりません. 一方で、私がただの考え過ぎで、意味が明らかです（笑）

それに、「午前の０時電話のベルの音、未来「あした」を届けてくれる声」というセリフも、どうやって英語に翻訳すればいいことも悩んでいます. すなわち、分かっているところが「１２時に電話がかかって、誰かと（歌い手の恋に落ちた人？それとも、親友？）必要なことを伝えてくれた」ということです. 午前の０時が 'Witching Hour' に関しているかな？サブテキストがあるなら、理解できません. このところは英語に "At midnight, the phone rings, and a voice(somebody) tells me of the future/tomorrow".

二つ述べた以外、歌詞が英語に翻訳できましたが、間違いがないわけじゃありません.

よろしくお願い致します.

Vaffisuco (talk) 22:35, May 8, 2018 (UTC)Vaffisuco

The lyrics are incoherent and ungrammatical, and Tetsuya made many English mistakes. Even native Japanese speakers can't get the point, but here are some tips. さほど思い出もないままに　夏の扉はまだノックしないでね > Don't knock the summer door without memories (just the two of us). This phrase suggests that the girl wants her boyfrind to take her to the coming summer season with happy memories of them. 午前0時電話のベルの音　未来を届けてくれる声 > The phone rings at midnight / Your voices (over the phone) bring me the coming/next day. The literal translation is "Sounds of phone ringtone at midnight / (There are) voices that brings (me) tomorrow", but you can change sentence structures and make the sentence more readable. This sentence, however, sounds weird to native Japanese speakers too. Damesukekun (talk) 02:00, May 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the song originally made by Komuro Tetsuya, sung by Mizuki Arisa?


 * Yeah, there were some other really hard to understand areas as well. For example, [Good Times! Bad Times! すべてから　永遠に　永遠に　連れ去って] I cannot understand at all. Since 連れ去る is transitive, and the object and subject isn't stated, it makes me think along the lines of [彼女が恋に落ちた彼を誘拐しました」which is probably wrong. Another odd part is 見えない時間（とき）が教えてくれる. 声にならなくて. 現在の通訳は 'Could you tell me about the unseen (witching hour??) time/hour? Even if you cannot put it into words.' 見えない時間の部分は何よりも一番ややこしいところと思います. ですか、damesukekunのおかげで、前よりこの曲が理解できるようになって、どうもうありがとうございます. ちなみに、古い翻訳した歌詞が自分のブロッグに投稿しました. よかったら、見直していただけませんか. たまに、日本語の意味が分かりますが、同じ感想や感情がうまく英語で伝えません. 全部のニュアンスや掛詞が英語に翻訳したいけれど、やっぱり英語と日本語の違いが多すぎて、あまり仕方がないと思います.


 * 迷惑をかけてすみませんでした.


 * Vaffisuco (talk) 02:31, May 12, 2018 (UTC)Vaffisuco

Can you tell me the URL for your blog? Damesukekun (talk) 11:30, May 12, 2018 (UTC)

Blog Link is Through this Wikia, URL is: http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Vaffisuco

このサイトの外ブロッグがありません. これから、このサイトに英語の翻訳を投稿します. いつでも誰でもみなおしていいです.

Vaffisuco (talk) 03:21, May 13, 2018 (UTC)Vaffisuco

Trains between Sapporo and Tokyo?
I just reviewed an anonymously contributed translation to トワイライト急行 which was actually pretty good. Only thing is, in the first verse, 上り行き usually refers to a Tokyo-bound train, doesn't it? Now the scene is set in Sapporo and the song was released in early 2015. Were there trains between Sapporo and Tokyo at that time? ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:13, May 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually トワイライト急行 doesn't exist. The author said the title was from トワイライトエクスプレス, operated between Sapporo and Osaka (not Tokyo). The service ended on Mar. 12, 2015. The 上り train's terminal station was Osaka and 下り Sapporo, but I think "the train leaving Sapporo" is better for 上り becase this term focus on the departure more than the destination. Damesukekun (talk) 07:13, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

サマ×バケ
I've been struggling with a few lines of サマ×バケ for a couple of weeks now so I thought maybe it's time to ask for help, if you don't mind helping me out. There are two lines I've marked, "急すぎるくらいな" and "アイスで誤魔化している" that I'm not sure of the intended sense.

Also in the video at 1:46, the phrase "財布知らない" appears in a text message. Do you get what that's trying to say?

Yoroshiku onegai itashimasu! ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:23, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * The first and second phrases are ungrammatical and weird. I have no idea what they mean either, but probably your interpretations are right.
 * 財布知らない is most likely "Don't you know where my purse is?" Damesukekun (talk) 11:47, July 7, 2018 (UTC)

OK thanks. I'll leave the translation as it is then. ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:21, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

神様からのアンケート official translation
I had a close look at the official translation for 神様からのアンケート and it seems good enough to me. Do you know why it might have been regarded as having insufficient quality? Would you be able to have a look and see what you think? ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:17, August 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * You can approve her translation. I sent a message to her but she was reluctant to disclose her identity and told me not to add her name to the translators lists on Vocaloid Wiki. She is a fluent Japanese speaker but occasionally makes slight grammatical errors. I suppose she is Japanese-Chinese-Canadian and a trilingual person. Damesukekun (talk) 07:26, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

For my bann
Excuse me for coming here, or if i sound mean, but i have to complain and i want you to listen to me and not just block me like you did a few hours (or minutes ago). First of all, the reason, "Copyright violation, image spamming" i got all images from official FREE sources anyone could see them and download them with out much of a problem, i even linked back to the illustartors. If it's for the licencing i didn't know i had to do it and no one told me how to do it but i tried, as for the image spamming i forget and i'm not the best editor out there. Second of all, I GOT NO WARNING FOR THIS!!! I just wanted to add a link to a tweet post that had the differences between the two song lists and i found out i was blocked for practicaly no real reason. Third of all, 'WHY DID I GET BANNED FOR AN INFINATE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR SOMETHING NO ONE COMPLAINED OR WARNED ME FOR? Also "You can contact Damesukekun or another administrator to discuss the block. Please include all details in the above box in any queries you make." is useless when i can't leave a message on your talk page!'

The info of the box:

The block was made by Damesukekun.
 * Reason given: Copyright violation, image spamming
 * Start of block: 13:01, September 1, 2018
 * Expiry of block: infinite
 * Intended blockee:
 * Block ID: #957
 * Current IP address: 91.140.88.118
 * My apologies. You are lifted and all images are restored now. Damesukekun (talk) 14:03, September 1, 2018 (UTC)