Talk:Amandelen/2020 Jan-Jun

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Magical Doctor
Could you check these lyric additions to Magical Doctor? "BURN" is OK, but the others occur at about 1:30 and 2:50 into the video and I can't make them out. ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:25, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

Romaji
Thanks for adding the romaji to all the pages TvT Happy New Year~

SolarTwT (talk) 12:58, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

Pastel
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E3%83%91%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%AB_%28Pastel%29/Jou-kun Their pastel page link in the top corner redirects to  Hanapo's song page


 * I renamed it to パステル (Pastel)/Hanapo and tried to make パステル (Pastel) redirect to Pastel (disambiguation) but I'm not sure the redirection works. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:12, January 3, 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you ElectricRaichu! The redirection works. Amandelen (talk) 09:33, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

歪の実 (Wai no Mi)
Could you review the rating on 歪の実 (Wai no Mi)? According to the blog, the song is about a love-crazed murder. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:39, January 3, 2020 (UTC)


 * I think the rating is fine. Nothing is described in much detail, so the explicit rating would be a bit much I think. Amandelen (talk) 09:56, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

SOS
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/SOS Needs a tabber for new lyrics


 * Added! Amandelen (talk) 09:29, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

2gihagi
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Sea-P Name update


 * Done! Amandelen (talk) 09:29, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

Return
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/564u5ub5u

21世紀の米騒動
Everytime Iut the lyrics up for 21世紀の米騒動 this one girl takes it down it's the english lyrics too why is she doing that

I put the Lyrics up here. heres the girl https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/User:RainySkye

https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:%E3%81%94%E3%82%81%E3%82%93%E3%81%AD_%E3%81%94%E3%82%81%E3%82%93%E3%81%AD_(Gomenne_Gomenne)/@comment-43840971-20200108060438/@comment-44026770-20200109053527?oldid=517685

Shouldn't they be banned for being under 13?

Ensei Rock
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E5%8E%AD%E4%B8%96%E3%83%AD%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF_(Ensei_Rock)?oldid=518206 Should these lyrics be a tabber instead since there was already a translation?

Kokoro machi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0-fga0bPw&feature=youtu.be

There's a tl by Angelsubs in the comments. Should that be added? SolarTwT (talk) 20:33, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

Christ
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/キリスト_(Christ)

Should something be censored here? SolarTwT (talk) 03:06, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Shrinebird
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Owly_songs_list name update

monß
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:%F0%9D%94%B8%F0%9D%95%9F%F0%9D%95%96%F0%9D%95%9E%F0%9D%95%A0%F0%9D%95%9F%F0%9D%95%96_songs_list Name update


 * My bot doesn't really want to work right now for some reason. Hopefully it'll work normally again tomorrow. I've added a WIP template and I'll get to the change in the future. Amandelen (talk) 23:34, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

Christ'
https://releska.com/2020/01/12/christ/ Seems like there's an update and a revised version for the nsfw line. Should we replace it wih that? SolarTwT (talk) 20:14, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

crunchy
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Dirt-eater_songs_list name change/update


 * I've put it on my to do list. I haven't gotten my bot to work yet. Amandelen (talk) 22:12, January 15, 2020 (UTC)

harmanics
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:ASTRALOID_songs_list name update


 * Since there were only three songs, I've moved them by hand. Amandelen (talk) 10:38, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Harassment
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:%E3%82%B4%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB_(Ghost_Rule)/@comment-209.66.197.22-20180925202147/@comment-73.73.18.170-20200117225219?oldid=520042


 * I've removed the comment chain. Amandelen (talk) 10:38, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

No pain
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/ノーペイン_(No_Pain) Should the official translation be replaced with Releska's SolarTwT (talk) 01:47, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Covers
Sorry I still haven't been sleeping well and I haven't been able to be very active ...

I was thinking about covers. The guidelines say that Vocaloid covers of songs with 1M+ views can be added. I have a couple of questions. So I was thinking, could we extend the allowable covers to include Vocaloid covers of Vocaloid songs?
 * If there is more than one official upload, e.g., YouTube, Niconico, SoundCloud, etc., it is unspecified whether 1M applies to the total views or to individual views.
 * The guidelines say that this applies to covers of non-Vocaloid songs. However, covers and remixes of Vocaloid songs are also common and some are very popular. Giga's notable Electric Angel remix currently has 1.7M views. Len/96neko's Happy Synthesizer cover has 2M views, 2.5M if we add the YouTube upload.

Also we should clarify how the view counts work. I think total views is fairer, what do you think?

ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:03, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

I don't think a cover should have a separate page. I agree a derivatives section would be better. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:13, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

Green tea disamb
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Green_Tea

https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/GREEN_TEA

Trainspud
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:LuaHs-P_songs_list Name update

Shayou
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E6%96%9C%E9%99%BD_(Shayou)/chano

https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E6%96%9C%E9%99%BD_(Shayou)

About this wiki's procedures
Hello! I have a few questions:

1) Can PV-only, unsung text be added to a song's page? I've noticed it's usually not, but I'd like to put it in. It enriches the song's meaning, and in the case of translated songs it'd be a pity to leave out parts that the translator put effort into.

2) What should we do if two producers have the same name? I've trying to add Wantarou's songs to the wiki, and while I was Googling I noticed this producer. I assume that, like with EVE and Eve (AKA Kurowa)'s pages, we should try to pick alternate names whenever possible, and in fact I'm thinking of using "1tarou" from his email adress. But how far should we look for alternate names? For example, would be using "U_104P" from his twitter account okay? And what do we do if we can't find anything?

3) Could you write down the Japanese and romaji lyrics for this song? Like I said above, I'm trying to preserve Wantarou's songs, and this one seems to be in particular danger. I can't find any reprints of the original, just these subs, and I can't find the lyrics written down anywhere either. Since you did Sky Heart's romaji lyrics (thanks for that, by the way), I thought you might be able to do this too. I know you're busy right now so no pressure, of course Nevermind, someone else offered to do it. Aruo (talk) 22:21, January 25, 2020 (UTC)

Official translations
Are we still supposed to add the translation if the producer has used google translate/if it's a machine-generated? SolarTwT (talk) 22:47, January 25, 2020 (UTC)

Harassment (kind of?)
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:%E8%87%AA%E5%82%B7%E7%84%A1%E8%89%B2_(Jishou_Mushoku)/@comment-204.10.219.126-20191113174428/@comment-43688111-20200126034109?oldid=522263

Dokuhaku: Fukase version not found?
I couldn’t think of a better title, I’m sorry.

So, is this somehow exclusive to people who actually have SoundCloud somehow? Because the VocaloidDB link to view it externally said it couldn’t be found.

Is there something wrong with it?

MML!opinions!Fun!Chocolate! (talk) 20:20, January 26, 2020 (UTC)MML!opinions!Fun!Chocolate!

Releska
Hey, Amandalen! Do you have a translation request for releska in mind? SolarTwT (talk) 21:44, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

Great! I hope you can request that in time :) Thanks for sharing~ SolarTwT (talk) 22:45, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

Monochrome sunset
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Monochrome_Sunset

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsLN4q9IETc Composer posted a 'full' ver to YT, can you add the lyrics to a tabber?


 * Sure! I've added the lyrics. Amandelen (talk) 22:55, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Official translations
Sorry missed this before so I'm putting it down here for you to notice. I personally think that official translations should be subject to the same quality standards as our other translations. I've come across official translations that are gobbledigook.

That said, I have no problem if there are minor grammatical, spelling, etc. errors that do not affect the meaning or impact of the lyrics as a whole, especially if English is not the translator's main language.

If someone adding an official translation does not have the ability to verify it, then they should add the UnverifiedTranslation macro. If someone can eventually check it, then they can either remove the macro if it's OK, or remove it, or substitute a better translation.

Obviously commercial sources such as officially published games wouldn't need to worry about this. All the translations I've seen here from such sources are of very high quality. It's mainly when a foreign-speaking producer has translated it themselves or asked another foreign speaker to do it that problems happen.

What do you think?

ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:26, January 27, 2020 (UTC)

Maybe it's a question of degree. If it is just poor quality, then adding a note and also allowing a more accurate translation is OK with me. But if it is effectively gibberish, I don't think we should host it, even if it is approved. Admittedly, the latter is rare, so I don't think it would happen often. Do you agree with adding UnverifiedTranslation if the person posting it is unable to check the accuracy (unless it's from a known reputable source)? ElectricRaichu (talk) 20:08, January 27, 2020 (UTC)

khanadee
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Karnia_Joy_songs_list

Formatting
Hi, I'm trying to color the lines in Dizz You Owe Me? to indicate who's singing, but it seems like the code conflicts with the bits that center the "pa-la-la" bits and just makes the whole thing disappear. Is there a way to fix this? Aruo (talk) 16:58, January 28, 2020 (UTC)

Kzz
https://imgur.com/a/VIk1XEh

I got this comment on my YT last night. Not sure who else to tell


 * It seems Kzz has replied saying it's fixed now. ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:46, January 29, 2020 (UTC)

Glad it's fixed! It must have been a fault from fandom, since kzzoldyck's block log doesn't mention any block (it'd also be weird if they were blocked since they did nothing wrong). Amandelen (talk) 09:08, January 29, 2020 (UTC)

Translation corrections
Hi! I just wanted to ask, would it would be a good idea to highlight the corrections that are made when translations are added here? Especially if they're from a blog post or something? SolarTwT (talk) 19:53, January 29, 2020 (UTC)

no_signal
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Signal_91_songs_list

Emvoice
Do you know if there's an EMVoice lyrics wikia yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y48pm_amJok There's already some originals even tho there's just lucy so far

Cat nap
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Cat_nap_songs_list

According to the HMW catnap is the unit name for producer nekomura and nekomi.