User talk:Damesukekun

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Vocaloid Lyrics Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Aku no Meshitsukai page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Esperancia (Talk) 18:39, November 29, 2011

Translation
Hi, I tweaked the translation to Cryogenic after you amended it. Please have a look and see what you think. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:17, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Your correction made the translation much more fluent. Damesukekun (talk) 13:34, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad you're happy with it. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:44, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Panda Virus
I'm trying to translate “Panda” virus, but I can't understand some phrases. Tasukete kuremasen ka? Thanks in advance for any help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:20, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * 舌なめずりを自重 ... 「じちょう」って、自分を重んじるとか大事にするとかじゃありませんか. I don't understand what it means here.
 * 知らないままの君じゃない ... さっぱりわかりません. Does 「じゃない」 mean "is not", or does it mean "isn't it?" i.e. "of course it is"?
 * 報酬金 ... refers to some kind of payment, right? I'm not sure in context what it's talking about.


 * 自重: 自重 has two usages. One is "to take care of oneself" and the other is "to be prudent" or "to refrain from doing something". In this case the latter usage (to refrain from doing something) is right.
 * 知らないままの君じゃない: this sentence is very confusing, but judging from the context "You are no longer who I don't know" or so.
 * 報奨金: it means "reward". This refers to the preceding sentence 一度頼まれた仕事は　死んででも遂げよう.
 * Damesukekun (talk) 00:01, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply! I have added my translation. If you have time, could you have a look? Maybe 報奨金 "reward" refers to being "Wanted"? Also, I translated 真似はダメだ as (あなたがパンダを)まねてはだめだ, but could it mean (パンダの)行動はだめだ? ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:16, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I checked your translation and re-translated a few lines.
 * 報奨金 sometimes means "reward for information leading to wanted criminal", but in this case simply "reward" seems better.
 * Either あなたがパンダをまねてはだめだ　or パンダの行動はだめだ is suitable for 真似はダメだ. It's your choice.
 * 舌なめずり is used as a metaphor in this song. It means a state of desire like Tom licking his lips when he catches Jerry.

Damesukekun (talk) 07:37, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I appreciate your help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:46, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Romaji Lyrics from Vocaloid Wiki
Thank you for telling me. I'll make sure to double check the romaji I use.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:39, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

盲目の宇宙飛行士
「盲目の宇宙飛行士」を訳してみました. 単語はほとんどわかりましたが、解釈はちょっと…. 助けてもらえませんか.

If you are able to help in any way, it would be very much appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:52, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * From what I understand, a sighted boy likes a downcast blind girl and attempts to get her to see light. However, he fails and gets disillusioned. He loses sight of something more important, the relationship that has developed between them. But the girl is now happy in spite of her blindness and conveys this to the boy. Do you think this is correct?
 * The lines 少女は知らない, 少年は忘れた, 二人は知った do not say what was unknown/forgotten/discovered. Is there a way to understand the unspecified 目的語 from the text of the song?
 * I am not very familiar with 躍起になる. My translation is a bit of a guess ...


 * About the lyrics. The boy literally lost sight in the end of the story, but the disabled two became happy because they finally found a new light - love between them.
 * 少女は　知らない is 少女は　光咲く　夜空も 知らない, so "The girl doesn't know them" seems fine.
 * I'm not fully sure of the sentence 少年は　忘れた either, but the boy started to lose sight at this point, so 少年は　あんなに光っているのに　届かないのか 忘れた "The boy doesn't know it" seems fine.
 * 二人は知った is 二人は それでも光が　そばにいることを 知った (anastrophe), so your translation is correct.
 * There is no corresponding word in English for 躍起になる, but it conveys the idea of making your hardest effort to fulfill your aim. (Reference).
 * I checked your translations and redid a few lines. Damesukekun (talk) 12:04, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

そうですか. ほろ苦いですね. コメント、訂正、ありがとうございました.

FYI I had a look here for 躍起 and it suggests a feeling of 焦る or 必死, so the closest English words might be "frantic" or "bent on" or "vehement". (I had already looked at ALC but I didn't find it helpful this time.)

Your wording "forgets to make smiles" sounds a bit awkward in English so I'll change it to "forgets how to smile". ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:14, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Mr.ブギーメン
Hi, it's me again. おじゃまします.

I had a go at Mr.ブギーメン, but I'm not sure what 捨てて means in verse 5. It doesn't seem to fit the sentence. Would you be able to give me your opinion?

Also, 誰にも届かない occurs twice, but the meaning seems to be different: Do you think that's correct? ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:48, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 誰にも届かない場所へ私を連れて = unreachable by anyone (?)
 * そんな声じゃ誰にも届かない = unreachable to anyone (?)


 * やたら増えた独り言は　欲望に塗れて捨てて is ungrammatical and weird. The point is the girl threw away her murmurs. I slightly changed your translation.
 * にも in both sentences indicates stressed objects. に (object indicator in this case) + も (emphasize in this case). English by and to are object indicators and the both are acceptable depending on the context. English and Japanese are very different languages one another. A Japanese word can't simply be converted to an English word. Damesukekun (talk) 14:22, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

About に, thanks for the explanation. I understand it can indicate both agent (by) and destination (to). I just wanted to make sure I understood these lines properly, because using に as agent with a simple intransitive verb (i.e., not passive or potential transitive verb) seemed unusual.

I am glad you said that 塗れて捨てて is ungrammatical because I was struggling to understand it. So the girl discarded her own 独り言? OK thank you. Um ... I'm afraid your English translation is hard to follow, but I will need to think a while about how to improve it. The construction is very different to how we express things in English.

Thanks again for your help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:25, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Romaji Transliterations
I'll make sure to provide a tutorial as soon as I can. And I'll also make sure that Vanderheld isn't used as a source anymore.

Could I also ask a quick question? I've seen you transliterate には as "niwa" while others transliterate (from whom I know don't use machine translations) it as "ni wa". Is it supposed to be compound or could it be transliterated as both? Sorry if the question is bothering you. I just wanted to make sure orz.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:12, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for double posting. I just wanted to tell you that I updated the Song Article Guideline to feature the tutorial. I'm also working on making a pop-up to remind users that they shouldn't use direct machine transliterations (ElectricRaichu's idea). Just thought you should know =).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:22, August 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I added info about Korean transliteration. Damesukekun (talk) 04:27, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

About the practice for capitalizing katakana in romaji, maybe you can suggest something like the following in the guidelines.


 * "If a word not normally written in katakana has been written in katakana, and if you believe that this conveys something significant, then you can put the romaji in italics, not in capitals."

What do you think? Providing an alternative sometimes works better than telling people to stop. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:36, September 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Recently not a few Vocaloid musicians overuse katakana in wrong ways. I don't know why but it seems they think katakana looks "cool". Their katakana words such as キミ or アナタ don't always mean emphasis. It's difficult even for native speakers to tell which katakana words suggest significance and which don't. So I personally think it's better to stop using katakana-capital or katakana-italic transliteration for the time being. Damesukekun (talk) 05:31, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

そうですね. リョウカイします！ ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:11, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Hand in Hand subtitled video
Hi, I've translated your "Hand in Hand" 's lyrics in Italian and I'm currently working on an Italian-subbed version. Also, there aren't English-subbed versions on YouTube and I want to post your translation! Obviously, I'll credit you! :)

愛言葉
こんにちは、ライチュウです. I translated 愛言葉 (Ai Kotoba) a few weeks ago but I have a few unresolved issues. If you have time to help with any of them it would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:18, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) verse 2, このご恩を一生で忘れないうちに
 * 2) *ご恩を一生で忘れない means "I will never forget"
 * 3) *忘れないうちに normally means "before I forget", which suggests she might forget, right?
 * 4) *Since they contradict, I translated うち literally, "during [my whole life]".
 * 5) verse 5, 一生で限られた時間で生まれる
 * 6) *What does で indicate? I would say ...時間に生まれる and that's how I've translated it.
 * 7) last verse, 僕からたくさんの君への愛言葉
 * 8) *I missing anything that can resolve whether たくさんの applies to 君 or to 愛言葉, or is it up to the listener's interpretation?
 * 9) *Normally 君 is singular so I've translated it that way, but in the context of the song it could refer to all her listeners.
 * The lyrics have many rhetorical modifiers that sounds redundant to English speakers. I'll check your translation later. Damesukekun (talk) 15:32, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it up! ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:40, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

サボテンのきもち
I tried translating サボテンのきもち but it's harder than it first looked! Do you have any idea what ちいさいこともつみかさねたら and いやなことだらけつみかさねたら might be referring to? Also, I've translated サボってんなよ as "Don't neglect me!" Do you think that sounds OK? ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:02, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think your interpretation is okay. Didn't you forget "me" on the second line btw? I added it. Damesukekun (talk) 03:44, October 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking it and for fixing the typo. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:19, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

青い自転車に乗って
Hi, I noticed you changed the translation of the title back to "Riding ...". I don't know how "official" it is, but KARENT translates it as "Ride ..." so I changed it to agree. Either way makes sense in English because both "ride" and "riding" can be used as nouns. "Ride" means an instance of "riding". ElectricRaichu (talk) 11:31, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that. Thank you for correction. Damesukekun (talk) 14:48, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * No I meant I changed it in the past. Bu I wanted to check with you first before reverting your change in case you knew something I didn't know or had a better reason. Anyway, if you're fine with the "official" name I'll change it back. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:10, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

こんにちは〜
そして初めましてかな. 前にツイッターでメッセージを送りましたが連絡を取れませんでしたからやっぱり初めましてですね:)

(こちらの日本語に誤ちがあれば(いや、ほぼ必然だと思いますw)すみません. )

御親切な申し出をありがとうございました. 早速ですが質問させていただきます:D

昨日アップした「炎の鳥、群青をゆく. 」のページを見ていただけませんか？

実は今回の翻訳に特に「見よ！」と始まるその部分でちょっと困難がありました. おまけに節が改行してる所をどうにも合わなかったのです. 自分のページに毎列がもっと長かったのでこの問題がありませんでしたが、ここじゃそう出来ないみたいですね.

それでは、よろしくお願いします！

テラ Terracannon876 (talk) 16:24, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for tweaking some of my translations. It was a big help!

2bricacity (talk) 18:43, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I uh ... didn't? Is this meant to be a separate thread for Damesukekun?

Terracannon876 (talk) 21:13, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late reply. I checked your translation and made a slight correction..
 * 引いた弓矢の切先に 想いを託し弾いたなら literally translates as "If (she) puts (her) feelings on the spearhead of the arrow that she drew and releases (it),". I translated it as "Let her draw the bow taut putting prayers on the spearhead (and)".
 * Sentence and paragraph. In this song some sentences go across two paragraphs, so your interpretation is okay. (I personally don't like this confusing writing among amateur Vocaloid lyricists.) Damesukekun (talk) 11:48, October 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * チェックしてくれてありがとうございました :)


 * Don't worry about the late reply.  I've come to realize that I probably live halfway across the world as every admin on this site, and you needed to check the translations, too.


 * That line was difficult simply because the English was always going to be either awkward or a great amount of artistic license would have been needed.  I chose the latter, but yours is more literal.  And thanks for the feedback on the paragraph breaks. :)


 * The mind gap lying between Japanese and English always torments translators. Damesukekun (talk)


 * What do you mean by mind gap?  Did you mean the gap between languages?
 * Terracannon876 (talk) 13:17, October 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Mistake. I meant the gap between Jp and En. Damesukekun (talk) 13:37, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Questions about Ikerenka
I have a couple of queries about Ikerenka. Maybe you can offer some help ... よろしくお願いします. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:28, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) どうも気が乗ってこない -- does that mean "I don't feel like it"? How does どうも change the meaning?
 * 2) ボクを本気にして -- that seems ambiguous to me, "make me serious about you" or "take me seriously". Are both meanings possible, or is there a reason why one of them is correct?
 * 3) 基本一応“出来てる”気分？ -- that must mean "A look over the basics, and I feel it's accomplished", right? But I don't get why it's a question. The translation does not have a question.
 * どうも means どうしても in this case so your interpretation is okay.
 * して in ボクを本気にして in this case is the imperative form of する. You are right.
 * The question mark in 基本一応出来てる気分? is ungrammatical, so you can omit it in the English translation. Damesukekun (talk) 15:31, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. Actually that was one of the more difficult songs to understand ... ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:27, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Yasagurenka translation questions
Hey there! Question about edits I did to Yasagurenka (seeing your Ikerenka comments reminded me I really wanted to edit these lyrics the moment I'd read them a week ago). It's really different having a native Japanese speaker that I can consult with. Thanks for your help last time!
 * I kept the original "English translation by ___" because I worked off his/her translations.  Should this be kept (considering I changed so much)?
 * "Gureru" vs. "Yasagureru" is really interesting to me.  I tried to keep the original translation in this case, though.  Would you say "yasagureru" is more "to sulk" or "to run away from responsibilities (or, to be apathetic and not care)" in this song?
 * The last sentence is 「この壊れそうな想いを一番先に伝えたい」Is this "I want to tell you before I tell anyone else" or "I want to tell you before anyone else tells you?"  I thought it could be interpreted both ways so I kept it vague, but I also feel it's more likely the first one.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot to sign last time!

Terracannon876 (talk) 16:39, October 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you can put your name as the translator since you practically made a new one, but if you want to leave 2bricacity's name, it's okay.
 * やさぐれる sometimes means (or is confused with) ぐれる. My intuition says ぐれる and やさぐれる convey the same idea in this song.
 * この壊れそうな想いを一番先に伝えたい can be read as the both ways you mentioned and sometimes brings confusion to native Japanese speakers too. The interpretation depends on the context. In this case "I want to tell you before I tell anyone else" suits the better than the other. "The horse raced past the barn fell". Damesukekun (talk) 05:25, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Please check my translation
BTW Thanks for the fix to Nagai Yoru ... it was such a silly slip I made ...

Could you please check my translation for Dear that I just uploaded? I'm making a PV for it and I want to make sure I haven't made any similar booboos in the subs.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:28, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't say thanks to me. I'm always learning how to write lyrical English sentences through your translations.
 * I found no mistakes in your Dear translation. Looking for your PV upload. Damesukekun (talk) 13:05, October 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * 優しい言葉、ありがとうございました. 動画を見たいなら、どうぞこちらへ. https://youtu.be/FM9jJn4nMAg ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:21, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Zombie Maker
That was one weird song lol. But it was really short so I was like, "why not?" though I fear I made more trouble for you in the end with all those corrections, haha.

Terracannon876 (talk) 15:21, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, the lyrics are ungrammatical and weird to Jp speakers too. Damesukekun (talk) 02:14, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

ウミユリ海底譚
Hi ! Sorry to bother you, but I think the translation of ウミユリ海底譚 (Umiyuri Kanteitan) is slightly wrong, even though Vervain Subs is on the recommended list.

The sentence that hit me the most is 海の底　息を飲み干す夢を見た "I saw a dream of drinking up the bottom of the sea in one breath", isn't it supposed to be something like : "In the bottom of the sea, I dreamt of breathing [a lot]" ?

There's also : 海中列車に遠のいた / 涙なんて　なんて "You were receding in a mid-sea train / As for tears, there's no way, no way". I don't understand how/why なんて becomes a negation.

And 「なんて」 is just translated "How", which is a bit weird for me.

Sorry if those are dumb remarks/questions and for my bad english, thank you in advance !

Rachinaf (talk) 16:49, November 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Excuse me for coming in ... I think なんて can indicate something that shouldn't be that way, e.g., it's surprising, or wrong, or unbelievable. So 涙なんて can mean "how can there be tears!", or putting it more explicitly, "there should not be tears".
 * As for 「なんて」 on its own can be any exclamation "What!?" "How!?" "Why!?" depending on context. I'd have to understand the lyrics well to suggest how to translate it. It's possible the translator confused なんて with なんで, but also possible that the translation is correct.
 * But from a quick skim, I could see a few errors:
 * 息を飲み干す surely must mean suck in all your breath. Drinking the entire seaなんて!
 * 眺める means view/gaze/stare, i.e. look at intently or for a long time, not glance, which means look at just for a moment.
 * 空の底 means bottom of the sky, not sky garden. Maybe the translater confused 底 with 庭.
 * ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:30, November 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comments. I corrected the mistakes you pointed out. Damesukekun (talk) 12:55, November 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you, both of you !


 * Rachinaf (talk) 20:37, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Holy Flag
HoneyWork's latest song Holy Flag is very catchy and is looking to be quite popular. I wonder what the background is? I had a go at translating it since viewers on youtube have been asking but I find some parts ambiguous. For example
 * 阻む弓矢投げられる悪意 -- does that mean 僕らを阻もうとする、敵に投げられる矢? Also, it sounds strange to throw bows with the arrows ...
 * 蒼い -- do you know what it signifies? does it literally mean the colour, or perhaps youthfulness?
 * 蒼く燃える証　目を覚ました -- does that mean 僕らの炎が蒼く燃えることの証? How does the sign/proof relate to waking up?

So if you have a chance, could you check/correct it? ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:04, November 4, 2015 (UTC)