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ask help about translate
excuse me, can i ask u something about JP translate? i can't DO it, my brain exploding btoom btoom

磔にされた心

in ENG (someone translate); Our hearts are spellbound

but i'm search " 磔" mean Crucifix

so what word is right? plz answer me, t hank you so much

early sentence かけられる言葉重く

ps. this song is kimi no sekai boku no sekai

KHTunaZCG (talk) 10:27, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

月に船たび
I've been working on 月に船たび and I'm having trouble with a few bits. In verse 9 do you know what のに and バイミー mean? Could you please have a look? Also in verse 4 there's 揺れてら which I've never seen before. ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:44, January 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * The composer seems to misuse the word 間に間 as "between". The verse would be "Between the dreamy reality and rarely-granted miracles we the sailors sing at daybreak".
 * I think バイミー is "by me", but I'm not fully sure. Damesukekun (talk) 11:18, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

OK thanks, we'll go with that. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:30, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

泣き虫夢見人
I'm struggling a bit with verse 6 of 泣き虫夢見人. If you get some time, could you please have a look? Specifically, I'm not sure of the omitted subjects and what she means by niramuing someone from behind. I thought it suggests someone is up to no good. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:30, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * The paragraph is in represented speech. I tweaked a few sentences. Other than those I found no mistakes. Good job. Damesukekun (talk) 14:15, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:59, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

下品な男
Sorry to trouble you again. There's been some interest in 下品な男 recently so I'd like to make a sub for it, but there are a few points I'm uncertain about. Sorry for so many questions ... Any help would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:44, February 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) v.1 Just confirming, does 奪われる refer to [女性の]心が奪われる, i.e., she falls for him?
 * 2) v.5 I can't see how 男としての relates to the verse. 僕, 資質 and 不恰好さ refer to his former girlfriend.
 * 3) v.8 Just confirming, is the speech by the current girlfriend?
 * 4) v.8 Could you help me with 便乗? I looked it up but the usage here doesn't quite match the dictionary definition.
 * 5) v.9 思いが笑いのネタに替えられる means her feelings are being replaced by joke material. But I understand 替える to mean 物がなくなって、代わりに他の物がある. I assume it's trying to say that her feelings are being used as joke fodder, not replaced. Or have I got it wrong?
 * v.1 You are right. The girl falls for the vulgar guy.
 * v.5 男としての is the modifier and 僕の資質 is the modifee. "my quality as a man". Your translation is correct. (Is I a typo?)
 * v.8 Yes, it is. The current boyfriend is telling the girlfriend to think again about dating with the vulgar guy.
 * I think "go along with" for 便乗 meets the context in this case. :)
 * v.9 思いが笑いのネタに替えられる means the feelings of current boyfriend are treated as a joke.
 * Sorry for this late reply, I've been busy IRL for a week. Damesukekun (talk) 13:13, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I think I did misinterpret something but you've cleared it up. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:17, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Shinitagari Translation Check
Hi Damesukekun, I just was wondering if you could check over Shinitagari's English translation. It's right here.Thanks so much!

NayruBlue (talk) 23:47, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

I had a quick look and I found a few errors. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:57, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Miekeuyt is on the unrecommended translators list. (Main article.) Removed. Damesukekun (talk) 08:17, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Question About Translations
There are a lot of translators out there, and of course not all of them are on the translators list. So, if I want to add English lyrics to a song page and the translator isn't on any list, should I add the lyrics and then message either you or ElectricRaichu, or message with a link to the lyrics and then add them after I get the go-ahead? Thanks!

NayruBlue (talk) 21:44, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Can you make a request of translation check on my tutorial? The comment box is at the bottom of the page. Damesukekun (talk) 14:00, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Question about あなただけのミクでいたいから‥
There's a line in the song in verse 4, 私こんなんでゴメンね. I'm thinking it means konna n[o] de "I'm sorry for things such as these", but could it mean konnan (困難) de "I'm sorry that I have difficulties"? ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:31, March 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * It's "I'm sorry for things such as these". Or simply "I'm sorry for being like this". Damesukekun (talk) 12:30, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:59, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

空に宛てて
Sorry for troubling you again so soon but I have a favour to ask. Could you please carefully review my translation for 空に宛てて? I'm confident it's OK, but Otooto-P has told me that it's a special song he wrote about a very personal loss and to treat the song carefully, so I thought it would be a good idea to ask a Japanese native speaker to check I've understood it correctly. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:09, March 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello. Checked and tweaked some phrases. Damesukekun (talk) 13:19, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks so much! ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:16, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Hetakuso Utopia Seisaku
If it's alright, I would like to ask you a question about a line,.

My understanding of it is ↓ ↓

but the translation on the page
 * 1) splits it into two sentences
 * 2) seems to treat   as equivalent to   or something
 * 3) interprets   as being about the singer, instead of.

Am I wrong? —umbreon 126 07:04, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * You are right. I updated Occasional's translation. Damesukekun (talk) 20:04, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Adding English Translations
Sorry to bother you, but there's something I'd like to ask about, regarding English translations.

I first added an English translation a while ago, it was then temporarily removed, checked, & re-added afterwards; I recieved a message from Amandelen informing me of this whilst the process was being under-gone.

I've since added multiple translations & pages, by the producers Lemm & effe, & each has had the English translation removed. Are these translations under-going the same process, or do they not meet the guide-lines? Or is it that I'm supposed to request a translation-check or else, before adding an English translation, if not a recommended translator?

Thank you for your time.

KiriyaTooru3 (talk) 16:30, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

この空の下で ～待ってるからね～
I have a couple of questions about this song. Would you be able to help? Firstly, while I understand the words, I'm having trouble grasping the gist of the song. I think it's about someone who has been separated from a close friend and longs for a reunion, do you agree? Secondly, I'm not entirely sure of the sense of the lines I marked (?). What exactly does the narrator wish to koeru? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:14, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. Your interpretation is right. I made a slight change on the question-marked line. Other than that I found no mistake. Good work. Damesukekun (talk) 04:43, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Yes, most of it was straightforward, I just wasn't sure if I was missing something. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:17, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Translation Services
Hi! I'm planning to pay some professional translators to translate some of the songs on the wiki. I'm making sure that the translator I use is certified by the ATA and that they are accepted by the USCIS. Is this okay? I don't think I can provide any sample documents but all the people who translate Japanese are at JLPT N1 or N2. Thanks for your help!!

NayruBlue (talk) 20:08, August 12, 2017 (UTC) http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p08_berne_convention I don't think it a good idea that you pay money for fan translations that openly go against the international treaty. Damesukekun (talk) 01:00, August 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Strictly speaking unauthorized fan translations, including my ones, violate copyright laws under Berne Convention, of which most developed countries are members.

Good point. If lyrics have been released under a CC licence or similar (e.g. on piapro), it might be OK, but most lyrics would have this issue. ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:12, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

That's a very good point. I guess the only thing I can do is look for lyrics released under something like that and do those. Thanks again!!

NayruBlue (talk) 03:15, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

The Forgotten Song
Hi! Would you mind checking the last couple of stanzas' translation? The parts in parentheses don't seem to flow all that well. Thank you so much!!

NayruBlue (talk) 19:41, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

ハートビートは加速する
I've translated ハートビートは加速する but I'm having trouble with いうこと聞かない胸に about half way down in v. 4. Do you have any ideas what いうこと might refer to? Do you think 聞かない refers to his heart not hearing what she says or to his chest disobeying what he says or ...? ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:34, August 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. Tweaked the phrases. Damesukekun (talk) 14:52, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

はやくそれになりたい！
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%81%AF%E3%82%84%E3%81%8F%E3%81%9D%E3%82%8C%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8A%E3%81%9F%E3%81%84%EF%BC%81_(Hayaku_Sore_ni_Naritai!)?diff=prev&oldid=191002 http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%81%AF%E3%82%84%E3%81%8F%E3%81%9D%E3%82%8C%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8A%E3%81%9F%E3%81%84%EF%BC%81_(Hayaku_Sore_ni_Naritai!)?diff=prev&oldid=191002] Could you check/edit this translation?

Oneway Journey
I have a couple of questions about Oneway Journey verse 3 where it says 感傷なんて誰にも言わせない.

Do you think it means "I won't let you say anything sentimental to anyone" or "I won't let anyone say anything sentimental"? Does 誰に indicate who is (not) being told, or who is (not) being allowed to say? Or is it ambiguous?

Also, would you think "sentimental" is a good translation? JE dictionaries list 感傷 as "sentimentality", but if I look up the Japanese definition of 感傷 and the English definition for "sentimental", they don't seem to say the same thing :(

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:25, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * In this case, 感傷なんて is the subsidiary object and 誰にも is the direct object.
 * The word-to-word translation is
 * (I) will not let anyone  say that (this is) such a thing as a sentimental feeling.
 * 感傷なんて 誰にも  言わ せない
 * 感傷 is a noun but I don't think "sentimentality" is a good translation. I usually say "sentimental feelings". Damesukekun (talk) 15:00, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, makes more sense now. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:47, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Abuse Report
No need to apologise and thank you for telling me about your concerns. I've sent them a message like you asked. I hope the problem is solved now. If they do it again they'll be temporarily banned.

Amandelen (talk) 19:44, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

I've removed their comments and they've been blocked for harassing users.

Amandelen (talk) 06:55, September 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Damesukekun (talk) 08:36, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the Romaji transliteration of Celestial Fox
Hello, Damesukekun. Today, I browsed the articles of Celestial Fox in both in this wiki and in the Vocaloid Wiki. However, I noticed that the Romaji transliterations of the articles for the song are slightly different: the article in the Vocaloid Wiki uses Amatsu Kitsune while the article in this wiki uses Amatsukitsune. So which of the two do you see is the correct Romaji transliteration of Celestial Fox? May I know? Thanks!

10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​ 10:09, October 1, 2017 (UTC) ​
 * I think Amatsukitsune is the better. Damesukekun (talk) 12:11, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding this one particular Japanese word
So, I have been observing this following line in the song Kimagure Mercy:

Japanese: 少しくらい期待させて（もう…）

English: But let me have some hope, won’t you? (Jeez…)

And one Japanese word that got my attention for quite some time now was もう.

When I looked up for the meanings of もう, one result that I got is that it translates to "already". But looking up further, it seems that it translates to more than one word or so.

So in the case of the line I wrote above in Kimagure Mercy, does もう actually translate to "jeez" in this case? Or does it really mean something else?

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 09:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ I looked up my two Japanese dictionaries but they don't have the interjection もう. I don't know why. You can search for Alc online Jp-En dictionary. Damesukekun (talk) 13:55, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * In this case もう is an interjection for a negative feeling. You are right.


 * So in this case, does it mean "jeez" then?


 * 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​ 14:24, October 15, 2017 (UTC) ​
 * Yep. Damesukekun (talk) 14:56, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Need help for translation on Mugen Nostalgy
Hi Damesukekun. Would you mind to check my translation on Mugen Nostalgy ?

I'm not a native speaker in both English and Japanese and I'm not familiar with Jap-Eng translation. But I really, really love this song (I looped it for almost two months)... and I hope that you could help me with this translation. ;w;

Thank you in advance for you time!

(sorry for accidently editing other sectors of discussion earlier. I'm still new to this wiki stuff...

MrBlank731 (talk) 09:25, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Your latest edits made the translation better. You can create a page for the song (maybe Amandelen will help you) and I'll edit some lines. Don't forget to add WIP tag. Damesukekun (talk) 09:53, October 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello Blank,


 * Hi again :)
 * The page is up with WIP tag. どうもありがとうございます！
 * MrBlank731 (talk) 08:55, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

人間だった
I'm a bit confused with a couple of lines in 人間だった.

Near the end of the lyrics, 空の掌で受けた 街の中、それをただ眺めていた. She got a town from her empty hands!?!? Is she staring at the town or her hands? Sorry, I'm such a nigate when it comes to kaishaku ...

Also, at about the middle of the song, I'm not sure what is meant by 埋まらない.

Any ideas or corrections would be appreciated. ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:40, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Your interpretation "It's just me that isn't satisfied" is right. Damesukekun (talk) 14:10, October 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * 空の掌で受けた 街の中 is a nonsensical phrase. I don't know what Picon wants to say so I translated the phrase as it is.

I had a close look at the way the lyrics were presented in the video and it's a bit different from the lyrics we had. In particular, there was a full stop missing. The correct lyrics should be 僕はただ情けなくて / 空の掌で受けた. / 街の中、それをただ眺めていた.

It makes more sense now but I'm not sure what she ukeru'ed. Do you think it's nasakenasa?

I changed "empty palms" to "empty hands" because I think we usually say empty hands in English (well, at least I usually say it that way). ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:20, October 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, you are right. Thank you for the correction. Damesukekun (talk) 10:21, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Julianna
Hi, I know you're probaby busy with so many requests to check translations, and I was wondering if there was any way I could be of help. I am a 15 year old who is half Japanese, half American, who is actually moving to Japan in a week, but I speak fluent English and Japanese as well as understand both cultures, so if I could be of any help, I would like to make more of a contribution to the Vocaloid community. 何かお手伝い出来る事があれば、喜んでやります. 引っ越しでどれだけインターネットを使う事が出来るのかがまだ不安定なのですが、物事が落ち着けば、毎日このボカロウィキアで活動したいと思います. お忙しい中、失礼しました. 良ければ返事を下さい. ジュリ (talk) 19:53, October 27, 2017 (UTC)ジュリ
 * Thank you for joining this Wiki. I checked your ドラマツルギー translation. Your interpretation is almost accurate, but you made a few misreading of subjects. I suggest you read this tutorial and learn how you restore omitted subjects and objects in Japanese. Damesukekun (talk) 10:18, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

RE Julianna
Hi, thanks for the feedback. If the translatiins isn't accurate enough to be posted, could you tell me some parts where I did some ommitting/other mistakes? I would like to take this as an opportunity to become better at translations so that I can become a better contribution to the wiki. Thank you!

​『ASTER』の英語訳に対する
失礼乍ら、下記のライン意味を成さない：

「What happened yesterday were our two's sins」

「On our familiar way home is a shop we two visited sometime」

「I found a pretty flower, our two's favorite blue flower」、「our two」か「we two」とか、文法的のエラーから

「I'll come to your room with the blue flower and "I'm sorry"」

訂正を申し入れられて呉れるか？

Keila Momoshuya (talk) 11:50, November 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thy Iapanisch es verray ald ant wrang. Damesukekun (talk) 15:03, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

today the future
Hello, I've added the lyrics you made/modified from the YT captions, but I don't know how many people have edited/modified it since you last contributed to it, so could you double check?

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/TODAY_THE_FUTURE http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/TODAY_THE_FUTURE] RainySkye (talk) 21:39, November 27, 2017‎ (UTC)
 * No one has edited the translation since my last modification. No problem. Damesukekun (talk) 14:49, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

HEART translation
Hi damesukekun, I hope you had a nice Christmas. I've been struggling with translating a few points in HEART for the last few weeks ... :( I was wondering if you could help me. Here are my difficulties: Any help/advice/suggestions are welcome. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:16, December 28, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Does 私に合わす話題 suggest that he was making the conversation pleasant-sounding for her?
 * 2) I find ...話題は...気づいていた a bit strange. Don't you say ...に気づいていた?
 * 3) With ...のあなたふわり感じると, my impression is that she notices something unpleasant about him lurking behind the smile. However, doesn't ふわり usually have pleasant connotations?
 * 4) 慰めではなくて こころ二人向き合うこと mukiau simply means facing each other, right? I translated it as "confronting" but I'm not confident of the intended meaning.
 * 1. You are right. 合わす/合わせた 話題 literally means "a topic that meets someone's interest".
 * 2. This phrase is ungrammatical. Probably some words are omitted purposely from this phrase and I don't know what they are. However I agree to your translation.
 * 3. あなた（を）ふわり（と）感じる suggests that the girl feels her boyfriend's tacit affection to her - tacit affection. Very East-Asian way of expression of love.
 * 4. 向きあう means "meet face to face", but "confront" sounds a bit strong in this context. I translated it as "let our hearts meet each other".

Damesukekun (talk) 11:31, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

あけましておめでとうございます！ Thanks for helping. If I may ask another question, do you understand why there is a negative vibe ... like why she gets a desire for bitter coffee, and why the regret expressed at the end? I would like to sub this song (eventually ... I got so many requests from my 10 years series) and I want to make sure I have a sensible interpretation. ElectricRaichu (talk) 01:51, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

I noticed you translated 時計を見ると as "when we looked at the watch" which is a bit odd. Maybe they both looked at a clock (on the wall), but my feeling is that he looked at his watch because it says "あなたは　何か言いかけて" (like maybe he's remembered something he has to do?) "私の顔見てやめた / 時計を見ると" suggesting that it's him that is ending the encounter. ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:03, January 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think the bitter coffee carries any negative feelings. The girl just wants to taste the coffee her boyfriend likes to know him better. And my intuition says the omitted subject in 時計を見ると 二人の時間がほら止まりそう is we, not he, for the girl says 「二人の」時間, not 時間 alone. Damesukekun (talk) 02:51, January 1, 2018 (UTC)