Talk:千本桜 (Senbonzakura)/@comment-86.245.26.248-20181130200601/@comment-89.130.147.107-20181213171826

Hi Firingsniper,

I agree that The "rising of the middle class" and "the militarization of the country" are not mutually exclusive. however, I thought we were taking about the period between WWI and the end of WWII which was one with a remarkedly bad economy hence the rise of the totalitarism and japanese imperialism. If you were thinking about early meiji restoration then that would indeed imply the appearance of industrialization in japan and an improvement in general life quality, however the fact that the song mentions ICBMs makes the former more likely.

"For Japan at the time, Anti-West is Anti-Military and invasive governments, the whole concept of a large, standardized, and unified military is very Western." I don't see how that's the case. Japan was in the business of might makes right long before Perry landed or the opium wars, just as any other country asian or else, the whole point of the sengoku jidai was to achive that large unified military, Kyushu and Hokkaido were lands that for most of history didn't consider themselves japanese yet were invaded by Hoshu's emperor

"In that sense, you can even say that "infatuation with the West" is synonymous with chauvinism", just no, that's a falacy. just as china, india or any other nation threatened by western colonization, the "Infatuation with the west" is an intent to catch up with the technological prowess for logical reasons, they can't just obliterate you if you have the same guns (except war isn't only about the guns, it is about having an economy strong enough to sustain the gun production and military research, hence why they also adopted other cultural aspects). chauvinism is a tool by govermenets to opress their own people through fear of retaliation of dissidence and to rally their supporters towards invasion, it is a global fenomenum way older than european colonization