User talk:Amandelen

If you're here because of vandalism, please post your message here. Thank you =). Past conversations: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Help
Um, hello. I've always been interested in this part of wikipedia and I almost always come here for information, but I'm new to being a part of it, if you know what I mean.

I definitely need help...

Where should I go to start a discussion here?

Are there any rules about what you should discuss and what you shouldn't?

I'm not sure how the whole thing works but I realy want to help.

Thank you in advance!

Thank you for your help earlier, I actually have another question. I read something here about how you must discuss the changes you want to make to the lyrics of songs and I was wondering if we should do that on the forum too?

If It's Raining
I'm pretty sure these two songs are the same; I apologize for not checking before making the second page. Because the earlier song is referred to as "just a demo" in the description, which page should be deleted? Also, if the first one stays, should it be renamed to match the current version?

Sorry for the error. MeaningfulUsername (talk) 21:02, July 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for fixing it! MeaningfulUsername (talk) 21:08, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Francisca/Fransisca
About that song page, I'm not sure how "the name" spelt in English. When I looked at the original video, it spelt as "Francisca" instead of "Fransisca".

RayGirl1234 (talk) 07:55, July 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for fixing it. RayGirl1234 (talk) 12:20, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Xiao-ming
https://soundcloud.com/yao-ing/sets/good-night-fairy-tale I think i found a stardust/xingchen album, they don't have lyrics posted yet tho but I can message them

https://www.xiami.com/album/9cEeuKf3814?spm=a1z1s.3521865.23309997.3.BQyZEq They replied back with this link


 * Found the lyrics. I'll start making the pages! Amandelen (talk) 19:47, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * EDIT: I've made pages for all songs with lyrics. Amandelen (talk) 20:55, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

Nebulae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX6cWJJLT7k Would a page for this song be ok? It's titled original, but at the same time it mentions that it's a remix of someone else's songs, and I don't think it has enough views to be under the notable cover songs category.

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=6%E7%95%B3%E5%8D%8A%E3%81%AE%E9%9A%99%E9%96%93%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89_%286-Jou_Han_no_Sukima_kara%29&diff=317367&oldid=245848 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=6%E7%95%B3%E5%8D%8A%E3%81%AE%E9%9A%99%E9%96%93%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89_%286-Jou_Han_no_Sukima_kara%29&diff=317367&oldid=245848] MeaningfulUsername (talk) 15:54, July 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for telling me and undoing the edits. I've blocked them. Amandelen (talk) 16:07, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Fuck_it https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Fuck_it] Can you lock this page?~Raine

Storm of Lights
This song was originally an instrumental by regulus, with a version with lyrics by Konran-P being released later. While it is a cover song where the author added their own lyrics, it's not a remix of the original soundtrack. The description of Konran-P's version also says that regulus "let me make lyrics" and it's listed as an original.

Should this be treated like a notable cover song, an original song with a separate composer and lyricist, or does it not fit the criteria to have a page?

Thank you for your time. MeaningfulUsername (talk) 01:28, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB_(Endroll)/Natsushiro_Takaaki?diff=prev&oldid=318520 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB_(Endroll)/Natsushiro_Takaaki?diff=prev&oldid=318520]

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83%E3%83%89%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B8%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC_(Mad_Magic_Fantasy)?diff=318539&oldid=318538 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83%E3%83%89%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B8%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC_(Mad_Magic_Fantasy)?diff=318539&oldid=318538]

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/センチメンタルな愛慕心_(Sentimental_na_Aiboshin)?diff=318847&oldid=313605 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/センチメンタルな愛慕心_(Sentimental_na_Aiboshin)?diff=318847&oldid=313605]

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%83%80%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB_(Dancehall_Doll)?diff=prev&oldid=319158 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%83%80%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB_(Dancehall_Doll)?diff=prev&oldid=319158]

Sleeper
https://majifromdq.bandcamp.com/album/sleeper DQ posted a bandcamp album of Korean songs :)


 * Thanks for telling me. I'll put them on my to-do list. Amandelen (talk) 20:51, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr9ywrgv2Iw Also on yt now, idk if they're gonna upload the full album tho

Rollercoaster
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Rollercoaster https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Rollercoaster]

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Roller_Coaster https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Roller_Coaster] Can you make a disamb page for these two songs ? :)

Life disamb
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Life https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Life] The pianissimo song has a small coding error

Landscape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhAow-nsCSU Found a Chinese Miku song :)


 * It has a page now. Amandelen (talk) 08:14, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

I'm still the only Chinese translator?
Amandelen, can you create a list of active translators at this wikia please? Wanted to know...

VocaloidDefence 17:34, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Ryo reprint
The reprint you removed wasn't dead, when that person commented, it was Moetron's subs reprint/translated vid, and I replaced thatt with a non-subbed reprint, so I undid your edit :'D


 * Thank you for double-checking =). Amandelen (talk) 20:14, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

内省/全部
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5XqdH2sd-w Chip made  a new song for Gakupo's b-day


 * Got the lyrics. I'll add it soon. Amandelen (talk) 20:33, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for welcoming me to the Vocaloid lyrics wiki!

I hope we can become friends in the future!

In regards to the Happppy song translation I forgot to put that it was SOOOO who translated it and not me! You can see the translation in the comment section of the video!

Sorry for the confusion!

lol i suck (talk) 10:07, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

AnimePantsu

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=%E3%82%AA%E3%82%B5%E3%83%8A%E3%83%8A%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC_%28Osanana_Blue%29&diff=320900&oldid=303635 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=%E3%82%AA%E3%82%B5%E3%83%8A%E3%83%8A%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC_%28Osanana_Blue%29&diff=320900&oldid=303635] MeaningfulUsername (talk) 16:06, August 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for telling me. Amandelen (talk) 19:30, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

ヒカリ証明論
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG0eyljq0eA New honeyworks song

Alice's oath
https://magenetratranslations.tumblr.com/post/176637881305/myrt-feat-kagamine-rinalices-oath-english Another Alice song in the series translated

Don't look down
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Don%27t_look_down https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Don%27t_look_down]

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Down https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Down]

Can you make a disambiguation page for these songs?

SWB
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SWB_songs_list https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SWB_songs_list]

Sorry for the trouble, but could you delete all their songs? I emailed them and they admitted they were using a torrented version of Vocaloid for their songs, and that wouldn't be allowed on the wiki


 * Done. Amandelen (talk) 06:26, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

They said they bought v5 now, to give him the benefit of the doubt, I suppose any of his newer songs from now on would be allowed to be on the wiki even if his previous things are deleted?

The problematic one
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Problematic_One https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Problematic_One]

Considering the comments, maybe this page should be locked?


 * Locking doesn't lock the comments iirc. I think it's probably better to just block the harassing person if they continue/if the producer wants that. Amandelen (talk) 06:26, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

I know, I just meant to preemptively stop anyone in the future from possibly vandalizing the page itself (though if it gets too bad/more ppl come in maybe it would be good to delete the page completely if the composer's ok with it)


 * Oh like that. The page has been up for a while now and nothing has happened yet to the page itself, so preemptively locking doesn't seem necessary as of right now. If things start happening to it, I'll lock it immediately, though. Amandelen (talk) 20:00, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Formatting
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/完全犯罪ラブレター_(Kanzen_Hanzai_Love_Letter) https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/完全犯罪ラブレター_(Kanzen_Hanzai_Love_Letter)]  The formatting for this song kinda looks weird?


 * It seems to be caused by the lines without a translation, so I separated those. I hope this helps a bit. Amandelen (talk) 07:49, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/210.185.163.176 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/210.185.163.176]


 * Blocked them. Amandelen (talk) 07:49, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=%E3%83%95%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9C%E3%82%B7_%28Futariboshi%29&diff=323290&oldid=291080 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=%E3%83%95%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9C%E3%82%B7_%28Futariboshi%29&diff=323290&oldid=291080] MeaningfulUsername (talk) 11:52, August 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for telling me. Amandelen (talk) 12:50, August 11, 2018 (UTC)

The Blue
Could you make a disambiguation page for The Blue? (Also there's a lot of songs with that title all being posted to nico within the last day or so, I think it's for some contest? https://vocadb.net/discussion/topics/168)

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A2_(Melty_Land_Nightmare)?diff=prev&oldid=323952 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A2_(Melty_Land_Nightmare)?diff=prev&oldid=323952] MeaningfulUsername (talk) 00:35, August 13, 2018 (UTC)

蒲公英/Dandelion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64PN-dc4Mhc Another song from the same composer who made the Chris/Xin hua song a while back


 * Already made a page for it a few hours ago. Thank you for the suggestion, though. Amandelen (talk) 20:50, August 13, 2018 (UTC)

Doors
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doors_of_Your_Mind https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doors_of_Your_Mind]  Could you delete this? Didn't realize it already had a page

MEIKO by ShoshoP
I added ミクのセレナーデ (Miku no Serenade) by ShoshoP which is an earlier version of MEIKO. I had the impression that a couple of lines had been altered in the cover (MEIKO), but after listening again carefully I think it's just that they're broken a bit differently; the lyrics are otherwise the same. The title is different, however, in addition to the line breaks, so I left the cover for now rather than trying to combine them. (Sorry if I've made it sound complicated, I've been sick the last two weeks and my brain's not working well ...) ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:41, August 17, 2018 (UTC)

PS Also noticed minor difference 独り versus 一人 for hitori in verse 2 line 1. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:09, August 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Rin Color
First you wanted gold to become #E5C100, and now you do NOT want #E5C100. What influenced the change? - Zach Mando Games (talk) 17:45, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

Letter to the Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CskoE9wrSe4 Miku singing in Korean, lyrics are in the desc :)

Picon
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/ガランド_(Garando) https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/ガランド_(Garando)]  No credit for the translation and somehow when they added it the external links moved to the top instead of at the bottom of the page


 * Weird. I've undone the edits. The translation was by Fatin (the one on the official YT upload) and I think that one was inaccurate. Amandelen (talk) 04:41, August 18, 2018 (UTC)

Noiseless Heart
Can you review the Noiseless Heart page. some of the lyrics definitly don't match. either that or the source is bad. Source (Nvisque (talk) 15:53, August 18, 2018 (UTC))


 * I'll check it soon (~1 hour). I'm adding the WIP template in the meantime. Amandelen (talk) 15:57, August 18, 2018 (UTC)

I think osaenare (in a few places) should be osaerare. Also, ki tsuzuki is likely to be kizutsuki. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:14, August 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pointing that out. I've fixed it. Amandelen (talk) 06:02, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

ryohs_k (producer)
When I tried to use the displaytitle macro for the ryohs_k redirect page it stopped redirecting. In the producer category, it doesn't even appear to change the title. The problem is that the "r" shows up as "R" and the "_" shows up as " ". Do you mind taking a look? ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:36, August 20, 2018 (UTC)

Heartland
https://bernis.bandcamp.com/album/vers-la-lumi-re Bernis posted a Xin Hua album :)

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Kiss?diff=326325&oldid=308097 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Kiss?diff=326325&oldid=308097]

鉄の弦の感情. (Tetsu no Gen no Kanjou.)
Hi, thank you for the welcome.

I actually made a post about this in the forum but I'm not sure how active it is plus I remembered you said that I could leave you a message about any questions XD

So um I made a new page using the guides on the wiki, and while the guides were really comprehensive and detailed, I'm not sure if I got everything right. If you have time, could you please help check? Thank you very much.

I'm also not confident in translating the description, so I left it blank and asked for help in the forum. Should I simply leave the description in Japanese on the page or should I leave it blank?

Thank you!

Autumn is a Nice Season (talk) 06:25, August 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help! Will remember that romaji should be part of the title :)


 * Melos (talk) 09:27, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Crash & Burn
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Crash_%26_Burn https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Crash_%26_Burn] It's just one word/phrase but no one's credited for the translation


 * "必然的" means "inevitable" according to multiple online dictionaries, so I guess it's okay to just leave it? Amandelen (talk) 19:51, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

UFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbfSVYLkvOg

http://shiopaca.tumblr.com/post/177260466207/ufo

UFO translation

Twin Phoenixes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8gxyAhdEV4 Found a new Chinaloid song o3ob


 * Sorry, but unfortunately I can't find the lyrics and transcribing it from the video takes way too long for me to consider doing this song right now. Amandelen (talk) 07:02, August 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * They've posted the lyrics in the desc now~Angel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8hBzh8cm4 They have another song with lyrics provided this time! :)


 * That's a cover of this song but with different lyrics. It doesn't meet any of the criteria needed for covers to be added, either. Sorry orz. Amandelen (talk) 20:40, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E9%89%9B%E3%81%AE%E5%86%A0_(Namari_no_Kanmuri)?diff=327972&oldid=302478 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E9%89%9B%E3%81%AE%E5%86%A0_(Namari_no_Kanmuri)?diff=327972&oldid=302478] ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:29, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=Flos&diff=328399&oldid=325806 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/index.php?title=Flos&diff=328399&oldid=325806] MeaningfulUsername (talk) 12:16, August 29, 2018 (UTC)

I'd just like to thank you for deleting the Ruku Oto Producer song list whatever. That was just an embarasing moment of my life that I've grown out of. I'm actually ready to start producing again. Long story short, that you for that.


 * No problem. I'm glad I could help. Amandelen (talk) 11:28, September 3, 2018 (UTC)

Bloom/Kotonoha
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%92%B2%E3%82%AD%E8%AA%87%E3%83%AC%E5%B8%B8%E4%B8%96%E3%83%8E%E8%8F%AF_%28Sakihokore_Tokoyo_no_Hana%29 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%92%B2%E3%82%AD%E8%AA%87%E3%83%AC%E5%B8%B8%E4%B8%96%E3%83%8E%E8%8F%AF_%28Sakihokore_Tokoyo_no_Hana%29] I think someone replaced some of the kanji lyrics with Miku's name for some reason :/


 * Probably the result of a glitch. It should be fixed now. Thank you for telling me, though =). Amandelen (talk) 12:48, September 7, 2018 (UTC)

Flowersrite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v71XofzQAzc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jysWvmXxwA

Chinese songs, lyrics in the desc :)


 * Both already have pages. I'll add the YT links to them. Amandelen (talk) 06:40, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/DON%27T_WANNA_LEARN?diff=331414&oldid=328093 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/DON%27T_WANNA_LEARN?diff=331414&oldid=328093]

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Went_To_Hell?diff=prev&oldid=331887 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Went_To_Hell?diff=prev&oldid=331887]

Vandalism
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Went_To_Hell?diff=332048&oldid=331891 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Went_To_Hell?diff=332048&oldid=331891] Since this is the second time within a week, it's probably best to lock this page
 * Thank you for telling me. I've locked the page. Amandelen (talk) 06:55, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

More vandalism Can we have another page where we can report these so we don't fill up your talk page? ElectricRaichu (talk) 12:42, September 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Good idea. I'll make a separate talk page.

Adding a spin-off + concerns about harassment?
I'd like to make a page for Onii Yuukai. I've noticed a couple of pages for other parodies of Meltdown, and I'd say that Onii Yuukai is well-known enough to justify adding a page, but I wanted to make sure if it was ok to make since we usually don't add covers on here.

also, I noticed this comment on Lolicon de Yokatta where a user called another user an ableist insult. I don't know if this warrants a ban or anything of the sort, but I thought I'd let you know.

KyuTurtle 17:12, September 20, 2018 (UTC)

Super Nuko World
hello! I replaced with a higher quality image. could you delete the lower quality image? thank you!

KyuTurtle 20:24, September 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * I've deleted the lower quality image. Thank you for replacing it! Amandelen (talk) 20:37, September 22, 2018 (UTC)

https://soundcloud.com/onlysummer17/goodbye-summertime-uni Found a uni song on sc :3

"Vocaloid only"
The "Vocaloid only" songs by GYARI seem to be going around with different titles (MM2018's official song list had "VTgTSD" as WAAA! and not the full tittle) and i thought if we could add those titles as official since they appear in the MVs. Here are the titles if you are curious:
 * ボーカロイドたちがただ叫ぶだけ --> WAAA!
 * ボーカロイドたちがただﾃｯﾃｰﾃﾚｯﾃｰするだけ --> tettey-terettey
 * ボーカロイドたちがただ2コードくりかえすだけ --> abgm (is "Bookaroidotachi ga Tada 2 Koodo Kurikaesu Dake" romaji for this? I don't want to mess it up again...)
 * ボーカロイドたちが2コードくり返してﾃｯﾃｰﾃﾚｯﾃｰとか叫ぶだけ -->RRRepeat!!!

--Ai {talk}

Bratislava
https://youtu.be/LbfWEERCMZ0 Renz Ren made another xin hua song :)


 * They haven't posted the lyrics and even if I wanted to transcribe the Chinese (which I don't want to right now because it takes a really long time) I have a hard time reading it. Amandelen (talk) 20:16, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

They updated w/ the lyrics now :)


 * I've added it =). Amandelen (talk) 08:00, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

catcher
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/キャッチャーインザライ_%28Catcher_In_The_Rye%29 https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/キャッチャーインザライ_%28Catcher_In_The_Rye%29]

https://piapro.jp/t/m-qi This has an "official" jp translation in their piapro/lyrics


 * Added. Amandelen (talk) 21:38, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Romaji redirects OK?
I've noticed some songs have redirects from their titles in romaji only. Is it OK to generally add romaji title redirects when I add songs or do you have any guidelines/advice on when to do it? ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:26, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Shirk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pGeQ_O8iyQ Mo song, https://boyuanp.bandcamp.com/album/reality-world Lyrics here (with other bandcamp  tracks)


 * I've already put that song (and BoyuanP's other songs too) on a separate to-do list and will get to them soon-ish. Amandelen (talk) 19:26, October 5, 2018 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjgcXwsYF-U shirk has an eng/daina ver now too

Deleted videos
Would you be able to add something to the guidelines about links to deleted original uploads? I'm not quite sure what to do. I know we leave the last known view count if available, but what about the dead link? Do we remove the link or just mark it as deleted? ElectricRaichu (talk) 03:13, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Producer who doesn't authorize their songs being listed
Hello Amandelen,

I just saw your sandbox, and you had in the to-do list 2 songs of Nynthixia, who doesn't authorize her own songs being on Vocaloid Wikias (involves both the Vocaloid Wiki and VLW). On her blog there is a document called "Terms of use" and on one of the pages of this document, it explicitly says:

"Please do not add on the VOCALOID Wikia websites a page for myself or a page for any of my songs"

Maybe is it better to respect her wish...? oO (Note: the songs where she is only a lyricist don't seem to be concerned by this)

Tokina8937 19:47, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

カラメルスターズ
https://soundcloud.com/ajimotoc/caramel_stars

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bm9bIXtBnwCYDccrduy1BUuTU2EN7UBS/view Lyrics here, there's Chinese lyrics overlapping with the JP ones i think

Hello,

I've just added a new song [//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%A4%95%E6%97%A5%E3%81%AE%E5%85%89_(Yuuhi_no_Hikari) https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%A4%95%E6%97%A5%E3%81%AE%E5%85%89_(Yuuhi_no_Hikari)] to my category. It was my first experience with posting on wiki, so I'm not sure if everything I did is correct. I've copied source code from another song and changed lyrics raw by raw manually :( Could you check it please? Thank you in advance!

Listen/Yanhe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI5KNrHABDU

Crazy Dark Angel
Can you please add Megurine Luka's Crazy Dark Angel song to this wiki. I found the links for the song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L08Z7BKO74 nicovideo: sm6168361 (you'll need the new flash drive to see it)

Wauxar08 (talk) 02:15, October 9, 2018 (UTC)Medea AgapishviliWauxar08 (talk) 02:15, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Nhn/COMPASS
Since there are a lot of character songs for it, should a category be made for the "COMPASS" ones as a "song series"?


 * Since it has some sort of overarching story, I think it's fine. Amandelen (talk) 07:59, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

My Room Disco Night + unrelated harassment concerns
hello, I wanted to ask about a translation of My Room Disco Night. EasyPop has an officially approved English version of it here, featuring a human vocalist.

while the lyrics more or less fall under translyrics, they still seem to be accurate to the original, and, as stated, they're officially approved. would it be ok to add it to the page for My Room Disco Night?

as for the unrelated part, I found this comment that insults and uses ableist slurs towards another user. it seems to be rather old, but I wanted to inform you anyways.

KyuTurtle 03:56, October 14, 2018 (UTC)

return to the womb
https://magenetratranslations.tumblr.com/post/179051244635/continuing-our-theme-of-spooky-songs-here-is-a Magen's team translated a mushiP song :3

Aoi
Can you make a page for Aoi (western composer)? There's already another one with the same name

Aeterna
Would you be able to figure out which bits Miku sings in Aeterna? I'm finding it difficult, and Rainy said her speakers weren't up to it, so if you could when you get the chance, I'd appreaciate it. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:42, October 17, 2018 (UTC)


 * It's kind of late where I live, so I can't do it now, but I'll be sure to get to it tomorrow.Amandelen (talk) 20:29, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I resolved it by merging Len solo with Len lead (& Miku harmony) since they're the hardest to distinguish and it probably doesn't make too much difference. ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:06, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

symbiotic wish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lFC9GnaPq4 EmpathP made another chinese song with English hardsubs, chinese kanji isn't in the desc. but this is planned to go into a bandcamp album so there might be a post then when it's fully released :'D


 * I've bookmarked it and I'll keep an eye out for the lyrics to be released. Amandelen (talk) 21:02, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Garden of monochrome
[//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Monochrome https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Monochrome]

https://twomakesoneofakind.bandcamp.com/track/--2 can you add the japanese to the page please ? :)

allotropes
"The Allotropes use mainly Avanna but the band also has tried Cyber Diva and ミク/PocketMiku by Gakken."

This is what they sent me in an email, I'm waiting for a reply for more specifics though but I don't think there's any usage of Ruby b/c they also mentioned not liking/being disappointed with v4/v5 so I don't think they would've purchased Ruby. Anyways I'll update the pages again when they can get back to me :'D~Raine


 * Ah okay that makes sense. Then it's probably just CYBER DIVA and I'll remove the WIP category. Thank you very much for clarifying. I hope you have a nice day =). Amandelen (talk) 21:20, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

RandomAir Translations
I'm sorry to bother you. RandomAir is making translations of HoneyWorks' songs recently. We welcome any contributor's posts as long as they are correct, but the problem is, she makes only HoneyWorks' translations and has no interest in building up the wiki with songs of various producers. She seems to have strong affection to their songs and sometimes uses overly emotional words in her translations, but this is not her business. A translator should be free from personal interpretations, or in short, should be neutral. In addition she tried to rewrite HnY's translation unless it had no apparent mistake. I think such a self-promoting behavior has no place in this wiki. What is your opinion? Damesukekun (talk) 14:23, October 25, 2018 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, you're not bothering me.
 * I personally don't really see a problem with a translator only translating songs of one producer/group if the song doesn't have a translation already (as is the case here). This is something they do on a voluntary basis after all, so if they only want to work on one producer I think that they should be free to do so. However, I agree that translations should be as free from personal interpretation as possible, especially if it's posted on an informational site like this wiki. I also agree that RandomAir shouldn't have rewritten HnY's translation like that. I think it stems more out of a passion for HoneyWorks' songs than from any kind of self-promotion, but I haven't really talked with him enough to accuratly judge that (and I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt a lot). I think it might be a good idea to ask him to refrain from overwriting translations in the future, and maybe to post is translations in blog posts. Please make other suggestions if you have any, though. Amandelen (talk) 20:13, October 25, 2018 (UTC)


 * I think it's OK to focus on only one producer, especially if someone is a fan and that motivates them. The experience that provides could be useful if they want to move onto other producers in the future.
 * I agree, however, that translations should reflect the original song as closely as possible. It's difficult to avoid some personal interpretation when translating, but I agree that you should not deliberately alter the emotional tone.
 * As for overwriting someone else's translation, this is a wiki so it's technically possible to do so. I once replaced a translation with mine (after asking) because I felt mine was more accurate, and then again, another translation I made was replaced by another that was significantly better. However, unless the original translation had errors or the new translation is significantly superior, it comes across as unsocial and (as you say) self-promoting, especially when you consider that the replaced translation was by a respected and experienced translator.
 * Quite possibly, as Amandelen suggests, it's due to overenthusiasm. I suggest the person concerned be encouraged to strive for accuracy, and be asked to discuss any issues with existing translations before overwriting them as it's considered rude unless it can be shown to have serious flaws. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:36, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

RandomAir BGM (talk) 21:46, October 25, 2018 (UTC)RandomAir BGM | Response

Okay. I am sorry for overwriting Hazuki No Yume's translations. I didn't know she was a recommended translator. Never really payed attention to the chart of the recommended, neutral and unrecommended list of translators. And by the way, if I don't translate any pages of Vocaloid songs from any other author than HoneyWorks, it's just that HoneyWorks one of the authors in this Wiki that most lacks translations. Also every single Vocaloid song I do from like Hachioji-P, 164, Hachi, and Hitoshizuku x Yama, are already taken with translations. Every time I try to overwrite them, my translation gets rejected. If you would see my full YouTube channel, (which you can't see in Japan) I have past videos whose translations were not that good as they are today. Also you don't know how hard I am actually trying to study Japanese. Like I've said in your reply, I spent three weeks studying Japanese grammar at full potential. Please understand that I am not so 'attracted' to HoneyWorks songs. I mostly like the human versions with CHiCO, sana, Lip x Lip, TrySail, and other human artists that should be there. I also have in mind that CHiCO will release "Mister Darling / Gimme Gimme Call" with Skypiece and another artist in collaboration this November. I am simply a HoneyWorks fan. I try to delete stuff from the past, but they get so popular, I'm best off not deleting it. You should know that I started being on this Wiki 1 month ago. I don't know everything here, and I didn't know about the unrecommended translators and recommended ones. I promise I won't ever overwrite another translations that's better than mine no matter what. Did you read this fully? If you did, than thank you for taking your time to read it. From now on, I will post my translation in the comments and ask you if I can replace the old ones with (my) new ones. RandomAir BGM (talk) 21:38, October 25, 2018 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, it's perfectly fine for you to choose which songs you translate. The main thing for you to think about is it's kind of inconsiderate replacing translations with your own, unless there is a good reason for it, like the old translation having lots of errors and you're confident yours is better. The other thing that damesukekun points out is to work at making faithful translations that don't exaggerate the degree of emotion (or don't understate it either). And remember that this is a hobby so I hope you're not getting too stressed about it! ElectricRaichu (talk) 00:35, October 26, 2018 (UTC)


 * My old ハートの主張 translation had overly emotional words in it. But after I made a new one, I assured the translation had no emotional content in it and replaced Hazuki No Yume translation because hers doesn't give the point of view from the song and mine did. So I hope next time I replace one of her translations, they won't complain about overly emotional lyrics in my translations. RandomAir BGM (talk) 17:12, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * There may be a danger of looking at a few creators. You can't learn various words or expressions from them. You should turn your eyes on many creators if you want to advance in your Japanese study. Damesukekun (talk) 03:31, October 27, 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah I see what you mean now. Of course you are right. Please take into consideration that he's young, he has to start somewhere, and if one producer motivates him, then there's no harm in that. But I agree, to improve his skills, it would be beneficial in time to move onto other lyricists. ところで英語のポイントですけど、「a few」は「幾つか」を意味して、一つに比べて多くを暗示します. 「few」だけで「少ない」を表します. ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:50, October 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * I know. I wrote "few creators" first, but I felt it sounded a bit aggressive so I changed it to "a few creators".
 * Age issue. Of course it is more a translator's degree of maturity than his/her actual age that counts, but his/her life experience often means much to his/her translation skill. I've seen teens make many mistranslations coupled with unpolished sentences. Not a few recommended or neutral translators are in their twenties or more. Please understand I never say translations by teens are unreliable. We need to confirm each translator's maturity when we adopt his/her translations for this wiki. Damesukekun (talk) 07:51, October 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes I agree. As for this fellow, given that he still lacks many fundamentals about Japanese grammar, he still has some way to go. I'll help him out provided he make progress. ElectricRaichu (talk) 02:24, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

Core
[//vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Recycle https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Recycle] Clicking on the producer name redirects to pinocchioP's core song ([//vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Core https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Core])

RandomAir BGM (talk) 22:08, October 25, 2018 (UTC) Fix of that page.

I just fixed it.

Since PinocchioP's song is "こあ", maybe "Core" should redirec to the disambiguation page? ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:49, October 25, 2018 (UTC)


 * The redirect should be working correctly now and I've linked Core to the disambiguation page instead of PinocchioP's song. Amandelen (talk) 14:22, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

meyonto
https://meyonto.tumblr.com/post/179428371052/cool-ollie-song-tho-you-should-really-put-an they said they privated it so i assume theyre going to reupload it with a warning in the beginning of the vid this time, or just a version with the flashing lights/effects taken out

cause i'm a liar
[//vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%27Cause_I%27m_a_Liar https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%27Cause_I%27m_a_Liar] can you make a tabber for the updated lyrics?


 * Done Amandelen (talk) 08:08, October 27, 2018 (UTC)

Vie Minut Pois
flower is actually singing in Japanese for this song, the english provided on bandcamp is just the translation I believe (which is why i didn't make a page for it along with the other songs of shocking's album :'D)~Raine (edit: same for "Spread my wings")


 * Oops orz. That explains a lot. I think Vie Minut Pois is in Finnish, though (Vie Minut Pois is Finnish and what flower's singing doesn't sound like Japanese). Hopefully they'll release the lyrics someday. In the meantime I'll touch up those pages a bit. Amandelen (talk) 20:54, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I did email them before I made the pages but they haven't replied to me yet, I'll try to update it if they do get back to me


 * Thank you for that Amandelen (talk) 21:03, October 28, 2018 (UTC)