User talk:Rachinaf

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the File:Tranquilizer.jpg page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 12:55, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Hi
Hello, thank you very much for your help on this wiki. I really appreciate it. And if I need any help with translations/romaji, I will ask you :-). And I actually already have a request/question: could you translate 鬼蜘蛛ト狐ノ獅子ト (Onigumo to kitsune no shishi to)? Only if you want to of course. It's a pretty popular page and there is no reliable translation out there, and since you can translate it would be nice if a translation was added. Once again, only if you want to.

Thank you very much :-).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:52, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

That's okay, the lyrics seem pretty frague anyway (from what I've heard). If you don't feel confident translating it, you don't have to do it ^^. And some of the producer's pages are not romanized because I wasn't sure how to romanize it... orz

Still, thank you for trying to translate 鬼蜘蛛ト狐ノ獅子ト (Onigumo to kitsune no shishi to) :-).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 15:02, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for helping ^^. I will change everything immediately.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 13:19, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hello ^^,

Could you help me by translation these sentences?

確かに言葉は届いたよ君の言葉を

遠く離れていてもずっと心は一緒だね

早く会いたいよ抱きしめられたいよ

They are from the song Dear BJ. I was making a page for it and found a translation, but only for the newer version (there are two version). Since the two versions are almost the same I could just add the translation of the newer version to the earlier version but these three sentences are not present in the newer version. This is why I would like them to be translated so I can still add the translation to the page.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:23, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me out ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:23, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Migikun is a mistranslator. But since the description says that his/her teacher checked the translation, it is updated and you say that it's an accurate traslation, I'll ask Damesukekun about it, to be sure ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:01, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Damesukekun replied: ...Migikun claims his teacher checked and corrected his translation, but the lyrics is written in old classic style and is very tricky to a non-native professional. ''For example, the teacher interpreted 百代先まで怨んでやろうぞ as "from your former hundredth generation I give them curses", but the accurate translation is "upon your later hundredth generation I give them curses". 先 means "hereinafter" in this case.''

Looking at this I think we shouldn't add the translation, since (while it probably would be accurate if it wasn't written in old classic style) it contains a lot of mistakes. If you think we should add it anyway, you can just discuss it with me :-).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:34, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Hello!

That's OK. I deleted it for you ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:13, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Hello!

Could you check the translation on this page for me? An anon added the translation and it doesn't seem to be made using a machine translator. However, this still does not mean it's accurate. So I would like to get it checked.

Thank you very much ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:35, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I See. Thank you for checking and even correcting it ^^. Take all the time you need =).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 10:12, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Hello!

The translations are from animelyrics. Just try typing the name of the song (in romaji or english) into google and put "animelyrics" behind it and you will find it :). Most of the translations are reliable, although you should watch out for t12111. The translations he/she makes are not reliable.

I hope this helps :)

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 12:01, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Hi!

As you've probably noticed, the Visual Editor doesn't allow you to put in codes (or at least I think so. I haven't tried it yet because the interface irritates me). Actually, only source mode allows you to put in codes. But since codes can be a bit overwhelming for new editors on a wikia, the standard editor is now set to Visual Editor, which is (or should be) more user-friendly. There is a possibility, however, to set the source editor as standard editor. To do this you have to follow these steps:


 * 1. Hover your mouse over your wikia icon (which can be found on the top right) and select "My preferences". (for clarification: click)
 * 2. After you've clicked "My preferences", you should be seeing this. This is the preferences page (or however you want to call it) and here you can chance all sorts of things. To set your standard editor to source mode, click "Editing".
 * 3. After you've clicked "Editing", go to "Preferred editor" (under "Editing experience") and select source mode.
 * 4. Go to the bottom of the page and click on save.

If you did it correctly, every time you click the edit button you should directly go into source mode. If you still have any questions left, feel free to ask me :). And sorry for writing a book orz.

I hope this helps ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 20:06, October 30, 2014 (UTC)

I believe there was a template for the lyrics. But it doesn't always align the lyrics correctly, so it's not perfect. I don't really know if anything can be done about that. Creating another lyrics template could be done, but I have no idea how. Of course there are some tutorials out there, so if you feel like it's necessary, feel free to try making one.

I personally think it would really help people if we made a Song Article Guideline like on the Vocaloid Wiki. This way then can just copy and paste the layout for the songpage and fill in the blanks.

Maybe we could discuss these ideas? I think it will make this wiki a bit more user-friendly if we did either of these (or even both) ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 17:18, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Seems like a great idea :). I think I will try to make a beginning for the Song Article Guideline with the layout we use now. I will base it on the one on the Vocaloid Wiki ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:14, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

I think the page is done ^^. But since I may have missed / forgotten something, I would like you to check it, to be sure.

When we're done with this, maybe we should also take a look at the VOCALOID Original Song Categories. Some of the categories haven't got the correct name (Avanna should be AVANNA, etc.) and the part on the main page is getting pretty cluttered. Maybe we could get a bot to change the category names (because doing it by hand would be A LOT of work).

Anyway, thank you in advance for checking ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:24, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for checking the page ^^.

I will try to look something up about bots. I will contact you when I make any progress. I will also try to make something of the test I made on my profile =).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 17:33, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Hello ^^.

I've looked into bots a little bit, and I think it would be a good idea if we did some of the work by hand, since some categories only contain 1 or 2 pages. Of course there are also categories with over 50 pages, so I think it would be wise if we used a semi-bot or made a bot request for those, since making a automatic bot seems like a lot of work. Let me know what you think ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:00, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

I'm currently doing Toraboruta-P and after that I'm planning to do Circus-P. I've got a whole list here that needs changing, so pick anything you want :). Be cautious of some categories, though, because some contain over 50 pages.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:10, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Seems like we didn't need a bot anyway =). Thank you for helping out with this. I really appreciate it.

About the VOCALOID Original Song Categories on the main page, I tried to make something in My Sandbox, but because it's not the main page it looks really messy. Maybe I can just put it on the main page and see if it looks alright? If it doesn't look good, we could always revert the edit.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 14:53, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

I've put it on the front page. Icons seems like a good idea. Maybe of the VOCALOID's avatar with the size 100px x 100px? For the VOCALOIDs that don't have an avatar we could maybe use their boxart. Do you think that that's a good idea?

P.S. I removed the categories we changed from your talk page since it might cause it to load slowly. RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 15:05, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Of course you can begin ^^. I'm not sure if the "add to this gallery" button can be removed, you could try. Or we could use the CharPortal template. But the CharPortal template on this wiki is a bit broken (I think...). We could try to fix it, though.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 15:29, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Good job on the template, it looks really good ^^. Anyway, do you think that there's anything else that might need a change?

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 14:51, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Linking the Song Article Guideline on the main page seems like a good idea. Maybe something like this?:

is a collaborative website for the purpose of presenting VOCALOID original songs. If you want to create an article, please see the Song Article Guideline for further guidance. Also note that not all fan translations are accepted to be featured in this wiki; they must meet certain conditions as explained in the Policy page.

The wiki format allows anyone to create or edit any article, so we can all work together to create the site. There are and growing.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with a link with the Vocaloid Original Song categories. Could you explain that a little further, or maybe show an example? Sorry if I'm being a bother ( ._. ).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 15:29, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, like that. I think it would be a good idea actually. I've added it in the template. I did change "lyrics" to "article" though, because throughout the main page the word "article" is used to refer to pages rather than "lyrics", so it seemed more fitting. Good job with coming up with that idea ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:44, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hello,

Happy new year to you, too ^^. I hope you'll have a great year!

I think I fixed it. I have no idea how, though. I just deleted Sukuuru Uaasaa Kosuchyuumu and the other one stayed. I guess wikia is just being weird today. And don't worry about taking a break. Everyone needs a break sometimes, right? ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 14:59, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

I believe it's fixed ^^. I have no idea why the wikia is acting weird when you rename pages, though. For me it seems to work just fine... Maybe it's a solution for now that if you have to rename pages, you'll just ask me? I bet more people have this problem, and that it will be fixed in a while.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:04, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hello again ^^,

Someone seems to have added a translation to the Anderutse page. I'm not sure if this translation is correct because they didn't add a translator and because I can't find it anywhere on google orz. Could you check it to make sure it's correct? Thank you ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 19:24, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

Hello,

Thank you for checking the translation ^^.

Coming to the point, someone has added a translation to the Itsuka, Cinderella ga page and I can't find it anywhere on google yet again orz. Could you check this translation too? Thank you, and sorry if I'm being a bother with this orz.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 15:17, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Done. You don't have to apologize when you ask these things, though. It's not like you can do anything about it ^^. Besides, I like helping other people out. So it's fine either way ;).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:39, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for correcting me ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 17:58, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Hello,

Someone added a translation to the Red Purge!!! page and while I did trace down the translator, I'm not sure if the translation is correct or not. Could you check it to make sure it's correct? Thank you very much ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:40, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hello again,

Someone added a translation to the M.S.S.Phantom page and I'm not sure if it's correct or not. Could you check it? Thank you ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 08:17, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Hello,

I'm doing fine. Thank you for asking ^^. How are you doing?

Anyway, I deleted 太陽が沈む刻 (Yami Ni Kieru Tsuki). So the problem should be fixed now :-).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 14:33, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I did. I deleted the page. You see, you did rename the page to 闇二消エル月 (Yami Ni Kieru Tsuki), but for some reason the fist page stayed behind instead of becoming a redirect/being deleted. So I just deleted the wrongly-named page and the page with the correct name stays behind ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:24, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Hello~

We are not the only ones were it happens. It's also happening on the Music Video Wiki and probably on some other ones too. I've contacted the Community Central about it already and am currently waiting for a response. I'm not sure if we have to replace all the broken images so you don't really have to bother with it. I just started with replacing them because it annoyed me a lot a bit and if we have to replace them all we at least have some of them already done :/. I guess it's a bit of stupidity on my part that I just started replacing them without warning orz. I'm sorry if it confused you.

Anyway, as I already said, you don't really have to worry about replacing all of them. When I get an answer and we do have to replace all the images, I'll inform you. Until then, don't feel obliged to replace any of the images. I'll just do some of them since I already have replacements for those and then I'll stop, so don't worry about it :-).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:45, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

A Proposition
Hello,

You have been working very hard on this wiki and I would like to thank you for that. Since you work so hard, I think it would be wise to give you the position of administrator. Would you like to have this position?

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:46, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Hello,

I informed NasuHime about it and she will make you an admin as soon as she's online (I can't do it since I'm not a Bureaucrat orz). This may take some time because she (probably) lives in a different time zone. I hope you don't mind ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:24, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Adminship
Sorry for the wait, I haven't checked my messages in a while. Anyway, congratulations! You are now an admin. My friend and I, both of which are admins, have been quite inactive as of late. It's nice to see there are still people working here in our stead. Thank you for your contributions! ♪ Nasu Hime ♪ 21:55, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

music hub
Hey there! My name is Jamie and I'm on the Community Developmet team hear at Wikia. I wanted to let you know that I've featured this wiki on the Music Hub in the Explore section. I wanted say hello, say that you'd doing a GREAT job with this wikia and are working torward getting some programming going with the Japanese music themed wikias. If you have any ideas let me know, but I think in 2015 we'll be working on some things!

http://musichub.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Hub

And here's our new twitter feed, let us know if there's anything we can help promote.

https://twitter.com/MusicWikia

Thanks again and keep it up!

Jamie (profile)•(talk)

About the front page
Hello again ^^,

Someone brought up the "Attention Vocaloid fandom" part on the front page and I think she has some valid points. The Attention Vocaloid fandom part seems to be a bit outdated (I don't even have any idea what Nyappon is and I think many of us don't know) and I believe many of us actually already know about the points made in this part of the front page. Should we just remove it? What do you think about it?

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:30, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

I guess rewriting it would be the best option. I will try my best. Thank you very much for your input. I really appreciate it ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 19:23, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Hello ^^,

I've tried to rewrite it. Could you check it to make sure it's alright? Only if you have time, of course.

Thank you ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:45, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, it seems someone checked it already. It was alright, they said. Sorry for bothering you about it ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:09, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Hello
Thanks for checking over my new pages.

Tell me, how good are you at Japanese. There's a song I'm having trouble understanding and I'd like someone else's opinion. ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:46, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. The song is 迷いの森. I published a rough translation. Do you think you can suggest any improvements? In particular, do you think the name of the song suggest a forest in which the speaker is lost, is indecisive, or is confused? Also, how would you understand the phrases "...音に歪む...分岐" and "交わした約束 繋いだその手を"? Any ideas welcome. ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:47, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I've got another song I'm that I'm not too happy about the translation for. Do you think you could have a look at あぶらむし (Aburamushi) and let me know what you think? I think I have the meaning of the words right, but Japanese is so vague about some stuff ... ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:33, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at Aburamushi. 騒ぎ出す わめきだす I had "We start uproars, you burst into screams" but you suggested "We start uproars, we burst into screams". Cockroaches don't scream, people do even though the cockroaches cause it to happen. Maybe we can say "You get into an uproar, you burst into screams". What do you think? ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:10, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

I had a go at improving Jekyll & Hyde. It seemed mostly pretty good. Some remaining points ... ElectricRaichu (talk) 06:48, June 3, 2015 (UTC) ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:28, June 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * "Hurt" is ambiguous in English (it can include emotional injury) but the Japanese word means physical injury or death. I couldn't think of a way to make it unambiguous.
 * "Leave that body" is ambiguous in English (it can include letting a body lie there and not move it) but the Japanese phrase means to come out of a body, presumably referring to the soul. Again, I couldn't think of a good way of rendering it. I thought of "Come out of that body" but that sounds like she's exorcising her.
 * 絶頂 means peak in more sense than one, like peak in popularity or a mountain peak. It's not clear what it's referring to though so it's hard to translate.
 * I don't know what せ means in 愛せはしない means. Is it "I cannot love [anyone but you]"?
 * Other possibilities for "hurt" could include "injured", but it tends to exclude the meaning of "kill", which is included by the Japanese word. I changed it to "wounded" which has a similar ambiguity to "hurt" but it is probably closer to the Japanese word, since "hurt" includes light as well as serious wounds.
 * For "Leave that body", I changed it to "Leave your body". I think that avoids the ambiguity.
 * I looked up 愛せ and it means the same as 愛せよ, a command to love. However, I can't see how that fits the context. I was wondering maybe whether it's a potential form, but i think we would need to ask a well-educated native speaker.

Any chance if you have time to have a look at my translation of ぷらうどきゃっと? Any feedback is appreciated.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:53, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Nicovideo --> Niconico??
Hello,

Someone has been changing "Nicovideo" to "Niconico" on several pages, while on other pages people change "Niconico" back to "Nicovideo". This is pretty confusing for editors since it isn't clear which should be used. Now, the Song Article Guideline does say that it should be "Nicovideo", but since the site name is Niconico Douga, shouldn't Niconico Broadcast be preferable? We could potentially change all the "Nicovideo" to "Niconico" by using a bot (I don't think editing by hand is a good idea with over 5000 pages, hehe...) or the other way around. I just wanted to know what you think of this.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:47, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'll look into it. Thank you for answering ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 12:19, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I've contacted someone from the Community Central and asked if we could borrow a bot to do the task. I'll probably receive an answer in 2-3 days. Just thought I'd tell you ;-).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 13:19, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Pocaloid Users?
Hey,

So apparently Keitaro16x is a pocaloid user and most of his/her songs probably use pocaloid. Should we delete the pages for their songs or should we just keep them? I personally think we should delete them, but I want to make sure that other users are in favor of this too so I don't make the decision on my own.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 07:46, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I'll just wait for ElectricRaichu opinion on this before I delete them, since I want his opinion too. Thank you for answering ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:30, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

ElectricRaichu has replied and thinks that there should at least be evidence that they use POCALOID in those songs. This is actually a fair point since we also have song pages for Circus-P and they used POCALOID at one point so... I'll look into it a bit more and see what that'll turn up.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 07:21, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

Keitaro states in the description of this video that he uses Pocaloid 2 and in this video you can even see it in his taskbar. I can't really find evidence that he uses Pocaloid 3, though. In the descriptions of the songs that we have on this wikia he always links to Voctro Labs' website. I'm not really sure what to do with the pages now since there is only evidence that he uses Pocaloid 2 and not Pocaloid 3.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 08:53, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Did I sound stressed? orz I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention. I'm not stressed though, so if you were worrying about that, thank you but you don't have to ;).

Anyway, I'm not really sure if he still uses Pocaloid. When people ask about it in the comments of his videos he replies that he doesn't use it (as far as my Spanish knowledge goes at least). Because it's not certain if he still uses Pocaloid, we can't know for sure if the songs posted on here were made using Pocaloid.

As for the difference between Pocaloid 2 and Pocaloid 3, I believe that Pocaloid 2 is just a cracked version of the Vocaloid 2 software and that Pocaloid 3 is a cracked version of the Vocaloid 3 software.

I also don't think that he would respond if I were to ask him about it, since most people tend to keep their use of Pocaloid a secret. So even if he used it, I doubt he'd tell me or anyone else for that matter :/.

Maybe it's better if we'd give him the benefit of the doubt, and keep the pages.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:31, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Japanese name order
I just added a song by 双未ヒロキ. I asked him how he says the kanji he says it's Futami. He also said that in English we can call him Hiroki Futami (see comments at the bottom of this page) so I put that as the producer of the song. However, is there any common practice or precedent for switching Japanese order to the usual English name order? If we usually keep it consistent with Japanese (after all, it's more common to say Hatsune Miku instead of Miku Hatsune), then maybe it should be switched back to Futami Hiroki. Do you have any opinion on this?

ElectricRaichu (talk) 10:54, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Main page CharPortals
Hey,

So I recently discovered a template on this wiki that we haven't used in ages and I don't think we really have use for it since it only features the Crypton-loids orz. It's missing almost all the images thanks to the image glitch (I'm going to restore the remaining images soon) so should we just delete it altogether (as in the template and the used images)? What do you think?

Thank you for your time ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 07:41, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I'll delete that one too. Thank you for telling me about it =).

I'm not really sure why "description" doesn't look like the other parts of the template. I think it might be a good idea to make it coloured and such, but before we change anything let's first try it out to see how it looks. If it looks good, we can maybe use that template for pages with a description and a "normal" template for the ones without a description. Would that work? Otherwise we would have a lot of pages with an empty "description" part orz.

By the way, a bit unrelated but should we have a category for songs that only appear on an album? Like "album-only songs" or something? This might come in handy if we ever need to change something on all album-only songpages. Does that sound like a good idea?

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:32, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, sorry to bother you again orz. But is it OK if I make a few Disambiguations? I already tried to make one in my sandbox, since I don't really want to post it suddenly and confuse everyone. If we use disambiguations, we won't have to use the "This article is about the song by... message all the time, so I thought it would be a good idea. I'll take care of making them, of course, since it was my idea.

Tell me what you think =).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 13:59, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I've already started adding some pages to the new category (Album Only songs) and I will probably start adding some of the disambiguation soon, too.

As for the infobox, I'm not really sure what we should do. On one hand, it looks a lot better if the "Description" part is coloured, but on the other hand, it kind of looks weird if one part of the template is visibly not filled in on a lot of pages I think orz.

I did some research just now and discovered that right now the "Description" part is still visible even when there's no description. I never noticed it, I feel so dumb now orz. I also replaced one of the "Infobox Song" templates with the "Infobox Song Test" template and since the description part is on the bottom of the template it doesn't look as weird as I expected it would. It actually kinda looks better IMHO. So I'm okay with the idea to change the template =D.

On a completely different note (again orz), if you ever feel like it, could you try to translate Jekyll & Hyde? It's one of the pages that frequently pops up on the "Pages in need of English Translation" top 8 and it seems to be one of the simpler ones (since the other ones are almost all masa songs which use traditional Japanese from what I've heard orz). Please don't feel pressured to translate it, though. Only translate it when/if you want to.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 19:54, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Feel free to ask me anything about English grammar. I've had bilingual education for about 4 years now (almost all of my lessons are in English, even though I'm in a Dutch school) so I should be almost fluent as of right now (although I still make some stupid mistakes when I type or talk too fast but I can easily point out mistakes others make since using a language passively is easier hahaha... orz). Keep in mind, though, that I know practically nothing about Japanese or its grammar (I haven't really had any lessons in it) and the only reason I know that masa songs are hard to translate is because you and Damesukekun have pointed it out multiple times.

I think putting flags on the main page is a good idea. Maybe we could use these flags? We would have to figure out what to do with Cantonese (a Chinese dialect) and songs with nonsensical lyrics, though. But I'm sure we'll figure something out.

Standardizing the highlighted pages also sounds like a good idea, I think. However, I'm not really sure how that would work in practice, so you'll have to tell me how you plan to do that ;-).

What I've also had on my mind for some time is that Vocaloid Lyrics Wiki might use a new layout soon (as in a new Icon and maybe a new-ish colour scheme). But I also think that's something that can wait and it's probably not even necessary.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 20:47, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

I get what you mean with the Cantonese, and that'll probably be the best solution, since it doesn't have a different flag like Catalonia (Catalan) has for example. A flag with a question mark also seems to be the best solution for nonsensical lyrics to me. I'll see what I can do about the flags (the ones I suggested earlier didn't include one with a question mark, so I'll look around more. Maybe we can use and just scale it down so it matches the size of the other flags).

Feel free to show your progress on the highlighted pages and/or ask for help ^^.

I'll come to you when I have ideas for a new layout =). It'll probably take some time, though. I hope you don't mind that.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 08:53, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Does that mean we have to add it to every page? That would we a bit troublesome orz. But I suppose it's okay if we just slowly start adding "Description =" to every page.

Feel free to begin with the flags. I already have them sorted out. Is it okay if I upload them? Thank you don't have to download anything.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:24, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry, you're not bothering me at all ;-). I'm already finished with uploading the flags by the way. If something is wrong or you need help with anything, just talk to me ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 11:42, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry that I forgot the Esperanto one orz. It look good IMO, but would it be a good idea if we put something like "Browse articles by language" above it? Otherwise it might be a bit unclear what the flags are for at first. If it looks weird we shouldn't do it of course, but I don't think it'll hurt if we try it out. Other than that it looks perfect =).

EDIT: Maybe putting them in the middle would be a good idea too. Sorry that I forgot to mention that idea orz.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 16:31, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe it would be better to remove the "Browse articles by language" part anyway, and just keep the flags in the middle. Otherwise you have two parts of the template under each other which say "Browse" which I personally think looks kinda weird. If you think it look better, keep it that way, though. Also, the "Add a photo to this gallery" part will disappear if we add it to the template, correct? Sorry, I don't know a lot about templates yet orz.

The model certainly looks better than what we have now: more attractive to the eye and a lot less to read (which is good if you want to attract someone to visit a page). My personal preference goes out to the second model because it has all the essential information in one "paragraph", rather than spread out. But the others look fine to me too.

Feel free to post the list. It would certainly help someone out and I might use it too since I sometimes really don't know which page to make.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 17:10, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

There were some small grammatical mistakes here and there but nothing to worry about (I did correct the mistakes, though. If you want to know why some things were mistakes, feel free to ask me. I'll gladly try to explain it to you :)).

I'll try to start working on the list in a few weeks if you don't mind ^^ (as of now I'm a bit too busy with real life).

I actually think the shadow behind the text is quite charming, as it makes the text stand out more. Feel free to change the Featured article template whenever you like ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 13:17, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Hello !

I've seen that you traduce the song "Kuroi gyojin" of Babuchan. I never had the pleasure of listen it before it removed so, if you have the video or the mp3 or even a reupload somewhere , can you give it to me ?

Thanks you for your response !


 * Hello !


 * I didn't find any mp3 or reupload for this song, sorry. I never listened to the song myself.


 * Rachinaf (talk) 19:43, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Composer Categories
I'm wondering why you removed some categories from jointly composed songs, やきいものうた (Yakiimo no Uta) and アニバーサリー (Anniversary). I haven't noticed anyone do that before, so firstly, could you double check you didn't make a mistake. Secondly, I have some more jointly composed songs to upload and I would like to know how to categorize them correctly.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:45, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

You say you removed the categories because they weren't the categories of the music composer. I'm sure there are other songs on this site also categorized by the lyricist (unless it's because I did it ...), and the arranger shares the task of composing the music you actually hear.

Personally, if I like one or two songs by someone, I would like to be able to find other songs by the same lyricist, composer, illustrator, etc., and sometimes a composer of one song is the lyricist or arranger of another, etc., so at least for me personally I would find it helpful if we tended towards categorizing everyone, though I appreciate others might have a different opinion.

At the very least though, since this is a lyrics wiki, I think categorizing by lyricist is a reasonable thing to do. Yes by all means let's ask RVL for her opinion.

(PS just in case you missed it, I also requested something above in the Hello section.)

ElectricRaichu (talk) 21:41, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hey,

Okay so when I first came to this wiki (and it only had 100 pages or so) we only had categories for a few producers (Akuno-P, SaiB, wowaka, Empath-P and Circus-P if I recall correctly) and while there were pages by other producers out there these producers didn't really have a category page. Me being me I thought that was weird so I started adding the other producer categories, and the admins then didn't really have a problem with that (I think at least they didn't really do anything to stop me). I don't really remember why but I mostly made producer categories for the music producer, not for the illustrator etc. It didn't really help that the producers which had producer categories mostly made the song all by themselves (art, lyrics, video etc.) so I really had nothing to use as an example. What I'm trying to say with this is that there aren't really any rules regarding this yet because, well, I kinda made the categories without thinking about that too much :/. So there really isn't a "correct" way for categorising pages by producer (this can also be seen in the song article guideline as it doesn't really mention anything about producer categories except that they should be added). Also, I'm not really sure if there are pages for songs with a different lyricist and a music composer where the lyricist is categorised, because most of the time these lyricists only write lyrics once and then they don't get a category most of the time orz.

Now my opinion on this is that we should at least categorise on music producer since, well, they made the music. I am also in favour of adding the lyricist and the arranger since they also share the task of composing the music you actually hear. I'm not really in favour of categorising everyone, though. For example, Kagome-P does a lot of mastering in all kinds of songs. If you go to Vocaloid Database he has like 300 songs while he doesn't even have over 50 originals. If we were to categorise everyone, Kagome-P's category would become cluttered with songs that he mastered and didn't really write. IMHO that would be very annoying for some people since I think most people mainly look up producers for they way their songs sound (or is that just me?), and having a category full of songs that were mainly only mastered would make people have to look through all these pages looking for a song that was written by Kagome-P, while with the system (if you can even call it that I mean I just explained that there isn't a "correct" way to categorise) we have now this problem isn't present at all.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I wanted to explain clearly why I'm in favour or not in favour of some things.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 14:46, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah that's probably kind of my fault that you thought that orz. But TBH I did always only categorise on the music composer so I guess it is kind of the way we do it? It's just no a written "rule" as to say. Since we would have to check 6000+ pages to new categories, I think it's a better idea to stick with what we do now, like Rachinaf said  although I still wouldn't mind changing that some day to include lyricists and arrangers but that's something for another day. So I guess I'll just add a line in the guidelines concerning this?

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:28, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

It could be a good solution, but I think it would be a bit too confusing, especially for new editors. And as you said it would take really long to make all the pages consistent. So for now it's probably better to stick with what we do now. But that's just what I think about it anyway.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:23, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Hey
Could you check this translation? RinAma added it and it seems she made it herself so I can't really decide if it's correct or not. Thank you in advance ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 13:50, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Portable Infoboxes
Hello again ^^,

Okay so I got this message a few hours ago about making templates more suitable for mobile users. This issue has honestly been on my mind lately so I think it's a good idea if we at least take a look at it. I'm currently trying to give myself a "quick" tutorial on template building (since I still don't know anything about that even though I've been around here for like two years) but it would also be nice to have your input (and maybe your help) once I've finished something. I'm not sure how long the "quick" tutorial is going to take so feel free to try things yourself. There's a new Insights page that tells you which infoboxes aren't portable yet. I already made all the drafts (mainly as part of my tutorial to see the difference) so it shouldn't be too hard to access those and make some changes. Also, this page on it might come in handy. Only do this if you have time and if you want to, though. I don't want to bother you with this =).

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 08:15, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

I just messaged you but ok: I'm now kind of reading a thread on community wikia and this still seems to be a bit of a WIP. So maybe it's better to keep this in the back of our head for some time until they've made a bit more progress? I mean the template we have now looks a bit weird when translated to mobile lay-out but it's still readable and displays the info correctly so for now there shouldn't be too much of a problem right now (I think...). Sorry for messaging you a bit too quickly... hehe. Have a nice day ^^

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 08:24, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestions on disambiguations. I will make them in a minute =).

As for the bots, I did some research about it a while ago, during the time when "Nicovideo" had to be replaced with "Niconico". These links here were very useful during that time, so I think they will help you too ^^.

RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 09:41, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing mistake
Thanks for fixing the incorrect title of 遠距離恋人に会いたい. It was just a typo. I don't think we need the redirect from 遠距離恋人に会いたい and the latter should probably be deleted but I have no idea how to do that. ElectricRaichu (talk) 09:08, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hi!
Hi and hello!

i just started here. Thanks for the welcome!

i just have one question~! how do i put a preview image on my wiki lyrics?

not on the page. as a preview, not quite sure how to put it but when i check others,

they have a picture then you click them and sends you in the wikia page.

Gene.infinity (talk) 02:18, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Hi!

Not quite sure if i'm gonna get that but maybe i'll leave it as is.

i got how you'll put a pic in* the page tho.

When i upload it, it automatically goes to the image database of the site. i just have to source it out.

i got the picture out when i made "Gohatto Disco" so yeah.

Thanks for the help :3 i'll holler again if i have a question :D

Gene.infinity (talk) 12:14, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Template:Toggle
Hey,

Someone told me that Template:Toggle and MediaWiki:Common.js (on which Toggle relies) aren't used, and since it's unused JavaCode it will just make pages load longer. Should we delete it? (BTW Common.js doesn't have a delete option, so if we're going to delete it we should look into that).

Amandelen (talk) 17:14, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. I'll delete Template:Toggle now. I'll look into Common.js a bit more (since I can't delete it right now anyway).

Amandelen (talk) 18:49, October 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Alternatively you could blank the page (although leaving the very first line may be preferred). —umbreon 126 05:13, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Asking a favour
Hey,

Maybe it's a bit stupid to ask now since I'll be leaving in about an hour but could I ask you a favour? Could you add new pages that don't seem finished (like for example Mad town before you started cleaning it up) to the WIP category while I'm gone? This way it'll be a bit easier for me to work on them when I get back. Also, this is only slightly related but I think a WIP template is a good idea. Thank you for reading this message ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 18:57, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much ^^. See you next week!

Amandelen (talk) 19:51, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to reply and thank you for your patience. I'll try to ask around a bit to see if I can find out how to make the template appear automatically. Until then I don't think it's too much of a problem if we have to add it manually. Thank you for keeping me updated and making the template ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 11:34, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hello. I tried to look into it a bit and I think that the disambiguation template might hold the answer, since this template automatically categorizes any page as a disambiguation if you put the template on it. I'm not entirely sure how that would work in detail, though, since I have zero knowledge on templates ^^;. But I thought posting my thoughts about this template might help you out. I will try to find out what exactly makes the template automatically categorize the page, but for now this is all I could find out.

Amandelen (talk) 13:00, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Good job! I'm glad you worked it out ^^. I do think that's impossible to do it the other way around, like you said, because I've never seen a template work that way before. But it's already nice that we won't have to add the WIP category on every page and instead can just slap the template on it ^^. My exchange was nice, yeah. I had a lot of fun and it has improved my English quite a bit, since I went to an English-speaking country. Thank you for your interest in me ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 13:26, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

やけくそ片想い (Yakekuso Kataomoi)
Hey,

I have a problem with Yakekuso Kataomoi since I can't read the kanji that is displayed in the video orz. I also couldn't find the lyrics anywhere else on the net so I can't copy it or anything orz. I feel really bad for asking this, but could you give this page a shot? I left of with transcribing around 0:40. After that I kind of gave up and stopped because like I said I can't read the kanji and I don't trust my ears either orz. Sorry for bothering you with this orz.

Amandelen (talk) 11:08, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I was kind of thinking about that too, because I'm kind of annoyed by having to transcribe Japanese lyrics since it takes up a lot of time and I don't have that time every day of the week. I also don't really like deleting pages, which is why I started transcribing lyrics in the first place orz. The only reason I deleted two pages was because one was a cover with only about 500 views, and I don't think that belongs here (notice how all the covers in the Notable Cover Song category are either a demo song, are featured in games or have over 100k views) and because one was a remix of another page with exactly the same lyrics. Maybe we can make make a forum post about it and link to that on the main page? I'll try to draft something up.

Amandelen (talk) 11:36, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much ^^. I'll make sure to make the request thing. I'll show you my draft before I'll put it on the forum.

Amandelen (talk) 12:03, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hey,

I've made a draft in my sandbox for the forum post. Could you quickly scan through the rules to see if I'm missing something? Also, please ignore the weirdly phrased sentences, I'm going to finalize the draft after I've done some other things. Also, I think I'll make a box on the front page above the "Brief Information" box with the thread in it, so people who visit the front page will be able to see it immediately.

Amandelen (talk) 12:47, November 7, 2015 (UTC)