Talk:RainySkye/Archive 1

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WelcomeEdit
Hi, welcome to Vocaloid Lyrics Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the メンタリズムマリア (Mentalism Maria) page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! RandomVocaloidLover (talk) 18:02, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Edit
Hey there! Didn't realize you had an account here :)

I should thank you for all your requests, since it's gotten me back into a semi-regular state of translation, lol. I know my readers would be happier with me working on the game translation I do on my blog, but doing a bit of this at a time is good practice to keeping up my language skills, I think. So, thanks! And thanks for discovering my blog, haha.

Terracannon876 (talk) 04:02, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

About song pages Edit
Hi ! You've been creating a lot of song pages recently, and I'm very glad to have a new active editor on the Wikia, but please, before creating a page, check if the lyrics are available somewhere. It's vere hard and long to transcribe them from the video, and sometimes there are no lyrics on the video... Also, would you please look at the Song Article Guideline ? It explains how to put the lyrics. You can also ask me or Amandelen if you have any question or problem. Thank you a lot !

Rachinaf (talk) 11:17, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

A questionEdit
Hello,

I want to ask you (again) to skim through the Song Article Guideline. It would be really nice if you tried to put the lyrics in a table, because it saves both me and Rachinaf a great deal of time when making the pages up to par :/. It's also really not fun to get about ten pages with only basic information and lyrics per day that have to be overhauled completely to make them match the other pages, so please have a bit of sympathy. It doesn't matter if you do it wrong at first. We're here to help you and if you have any questions, you shouldn't be afraid to ask us. We won't get angry at you or something. I am also aware that you don't add pages as much anymore, so maybe it's a bit weird of me to ask you this now, but I have the feeling that the anonymous editor doesn't really read the messages because the messaging system for anonymous editors is really weird orz. I am also not asking you to put the lyrics of other pages in a table. It would just be really helpful if you tried to do it with the pages you make.

Also, please do not see this as a warning. I can't really block you when in fact you are making good edits, but especially last week a lot of new pages were added and like I said, it's really annoying to have to clean them all up :/.

Also, just to make sure: I'm not angry at you or the anonymous editor for that matter. I just wanted to type you this message as a suggestion, and to kind of make sure that you know that we don't really like having to clean up all the pages. We even tried to make a request thread so that we could make the pages at our own pace (because the pages tend to stay unfinished for at least half a day), but I think it went by unnoticed, hehe...

Anyway, thank you for reading.

Amandelen (talk) 16:39, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hey,

Just wanted to give you a thank you for reading the message =). Remember, if you have any questions, you can ask me ^^.

Have a nice day.

Amandelen (talk) 18:03, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

COLOR/MiddernachtEdit
Hey RainySkye,

I've deleted your page for COLOR by Shius and Middernachtt since it already has a page right here. I hope you don't mind ^^;.

Amandelen (talk) 19:51, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

ah it's ok, i didn't see it when trying to search for it :'D

DoublepostingEdit
Hey RainySkye,

I don't mean to call you out, but when you make multiple requests on one day could you maybe edit the comment (right corner of the published comment, click on "more" and the first button will say "edit") instead of posting new ones? It's not against the rules to double post, but the more posts a forum has the slower it will start to load, so editing your comment instead of making a new one makes sure that the song request forum stays open a little longer before I'll have to make a new one. I would also say this to the anon who frequently requests, but anonymous users can't edit their comments and I don't think they want to sign up. Again, I don't mean to call you out and it's not wrong what you are doing, but it would save a lot of space.

Thank you for reading this message. Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 16:26, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Ah yeah sure sorry about that

View Count UpdatesEdit
Hey,

First of all, I want to thank you for updating the view count on so many pages recently. But could you in the future maybe round the numbers off? So instead of updating it to say 134,598+ put 134,000+ instead? This is how it is done on all other pages (except when the original video has been removed and thus can't be viewed anymore, which means the number will stay fixed) and makes it look better.

Thank you for reading this message ^^.

EDIT: This is off topic, but if your request(s) has not been added to the list by the time you make a new request, could you maybe put that new request in the older comment by editing this comment? This saves a lot of space and will make sure that nobody will have problems with loading the page. Sorry for going off topic suddenly and thank you again for reading this message.

Amandelen (talk) 08:54, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Hi !

Thank you for editing so much pages, but could you please add less digits to the view count, as Amandelen explained? It would be easier for everyone !

Thank you !

Rachinaf (talk) 07:39, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

Hi !

As I said, thank you for editing so much pages, but could you please add less digits to the view count, such as "260,000+" instead of "266,800+" ?

Thanks a lot ! Rachinaf (talk) 20:37, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

ok sure i'll round down from now on

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Hi RainySkye

Sorry to bother you about view counts, but if a song has over ten thousands views, could you please the round viewcount down to thousands instead of hundreds like you are doing now? (302,000+ instead of 302,300+)

Thank you.

Seramyu (talk) 21:51, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

ok sure ~ Raine

Hey RainySkye,

Sorry to bother you about this again, but we've had some changes in the rules regarding viewcounts in the Song Article Guideline. Many users follow pages, and when a page they follow gets edited they get an email. Of course, when this happens very often, this can cause irritation. This is why we have changed the way viewcounts are supposed to be rounded off a bit to prevent people from receiving a lot of emails in a short period of time: Could you maybe stick to these rules from now on? It would be appreciated a lot. Also, thank you very much for keeping all the pages up to date by updating the viewcounts, especially on older pages. I'm really grateful that you do that, and I'm sure a lot of other people are as well.
 * If a song has less than 1,000 views, the full viewcount should be displayed: 8+, 60+, 200+
 * If a song has 1,000 views or more, it should be rounded off to two digits: 1,200+, 34,000+, 160,0000+, 1,400,000+

Thank you for reading this message and have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 14:16, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

As Amandelen says, please follow the guidelines and round view counts down to 1 digit for counts less than 1000 and 2 digits for 1000 or more. There is no point changing 400 to 420. Please wait until it reaches at least 500 before changing it. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:54, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rainy, thanks for pointing out the error in that song. Um, could you please limit view count updates to the first two digits only. I follow songs that I have translated because sometimes someone (like Damesukekun for example) makes a correction (I'd like to know about it in case I need to fix it on other sites where I publish). However, it's annoying getting spammed and also having the activity feed filled with trivial updates. First two digits means X,X00 or XX,000 or XX0,000 etc. Please don't edit just to update the viewcount unless it's increased significantly. Thanks for all your contributions. ElectricRaichu (talk) 07:18, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism Edit
Hi ! I blocked the anon for 3 days, thanks a lot for signaling it !

Rachinaf (talk) 09:28, August 20, 2016 (UTC)

Hi ! I left them a message, tell me if you see them doing it again. Thanks for letting me know !

Rachinaf (talk) 15:09, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

WIP TemplateEdit
Hey RainySkye,

I noticed that you started making Japanese songs pages. That's completely fine and please do go on with making them if you want to, but could you please keep them in the WIP category until another user has checked them? I don't want to be rude, but the romaji contains a lot of mistakes and the formatting is also kind of weird sometimes (for example, instead of "Lyrics" the header often says "LyricsEdit"). Keeping them in the WIP category makes it easier to find these pages, and makes sure that visitors know that it's not finished yet. Again, feel free to continue on making them, just keep them in the WIP category until someone else has checked it just to be sure.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 08:16, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

ok got it o3ob

UnderwaterEdit
Hey Rainy,

Are you currently adding the lyrics or can i? :PG

Go ahead :'D

103.196.139.202 Edit
Hello, 103.196.139.202 is blocked. Have a good day

Rachinaf (talk) 18:38, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

Romaji tips Edit
Many kanji are used to represent more than one word, so you need to carefully listen to the lyrics and compare them with your romaji to make sure you have the right word. For example, 汚れる can be yogoreru "get dirty" or kegareru "be corrupted", 行った can be itta "went" or okonatta "carried out", 何色 can be naniiro "what colour" or nanshoku "how many colours".

Some words can have variants with the same meaning, e.g., 明日 "tomorrow" can be asu or ashita (or even myōnichithough that would be unusual in lyrics), 行く "go" can be iku or yuku. Again, listen carefully to the lyrics to make sure you have the right pronunciation.

If you have or can install the Firefox web browser, you can get the Rikaichan add-on that shows you possible readings when you move mouse your over Japanese a web page. It even manages to deinflect verbs and adjectives (most of the time). It's worth using Firefox at least for doing song lyrics just to help you make less mistakes.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:47, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

ah ok, i was just using google translate's romaji system w/o double checking/listening to the song i'll check out the add on

lol That explains why you've been making a few mistakes. I'm afraid you can't rely on automatic translators. You need to listen to the song. It also helps a lot if you learn some grammar. This website might be of help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:20, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

View Count Updates (Again)Edit
Hey RainySkye,

Please remember to round off the viewcounts correctly: ElectricRaichu has messaged you about it two times after I did, but you might have missed them since they were still filed under "View Count Updates", so I decided to make a new message on the bottom of your page so it's easier to find. I hope you don't mind ^^.
 * If a song has less than 1,000 views, it should be rounded off to one digit: 8+, 60+, 200+
 * If a song has 1,000 views or more, it should be rounded off to two digits: 1,200+, 34,000+, 160,0000+, 1,400,000+

Thank you for all your contributions to this wiki. Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 18:48, October 17, 2016 (UTC)

Re: achievement pointsEdit
Hey RainySkye,

I'm not really sure what could be wrong. My best bet is that it just needs some time to load, and that they will add up a few hours from now. There's also the possibility that you didn't get the badge yet because you haven't met the requirements (as getting a badge is the only way to get an achievement points), or that the badge needs some time to load. If the achievement points still aren't added by tomorrow even though you got a new badge, please do message me again. I'll try to see what I can do. I'm sorry I can't be of much help right now orz.

Amandelen (talk) 20:15, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Ah OK. It seems that other people can still get badges, so if something's wrong it's probably only your account that is experiencing it. It's also likely that it's just a wikia issue, and if something is really wrong someone should contact Community Central as it might be a bug (and they'll probably have a solution). It would probably be better if you did that yourself, as you know more about the situation than I do. I can help you with making a message, though. But you'll have to manage the thread yourself since I probably can't answer the questions for you. Before you're going to contact Community Central (if you're going to do that), you should make sure that something is really wrong. There is also a chance that you just haven't met the requirements to get your next badge yet, and that your achievement points aren't going up because of that. Are you absolutely sure that this is not the case?

20:55, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Re: wip templateEdit
It does. Thank you for pointing it out. I'll fix it immediately =).

Amandelen (talk) 19:27, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Making new pagesEdit
Hey RainySkye,

Before starting new pages, could you maybe finish other pages you made which you can finish? I get it if you don't want to make romaji, but pages like for example Terrible Musician and ぼくらの16bitエンズ・トリガー (Bokura no 16bit endZ trigger) both seem like pages that you can finish. Terrible Musician is completely in English and the lyrics for くらの16bitエンズ・トリガー are already all typed out.

Amandelen (talk) 07:43, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Sure, I'll transcribe terrible musician now, my wifi/keyboard was dying on me for the second, sorry about that

That's okay. Thank you (^^)b Amandelen (talk) 08:26, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

To-Do ListEdit
Hey there! I was wondering- is it alright if I try and take on some of the songs on your list? I don't want to encroach on your stuff// x'D  But I'd be happy to help! CCyclone (talk) 06:50, November 8, 2016 (UTC)CCyclone

HomeworkEdit
Hey RainySkye,

You recently added all songs on the album Homework, and while making the romaji I discovered that "Valkyrja" and "Sailor Fuku to Kikanjuu" have (largely) the same melody and lyrics as the songs they're based on, so they count as covers. Since they don't match any criteria for covers I've deleted the pages. Just thought I'd let you know.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 17:10, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I see, that's fine.

Re: Romaja RequestEdit
Done and done! :)) CCyclone (talk) 02:50, December 5, 2016 (UTC)CCyclone

English SongsEdit
Hey RainySkye,

I believe I asked you this before, but when making song pages for English song, could you type out the lyrics yourself? It's better to finish up a page as much as you can before making a new one.

Amandelen (talk) 07:17, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I've been asking some composers for lyrics, otherwise i just type them out if I can tho sometimes YT or my wifi crashes on me, I'll prolly just transcribe lyrics to my personal files before making a page next time-Raine

Lyrics on piaproEdit
Hey RainySkye,

Lyrics on piapro is displayed a bit differently than on Hatsune Miku Wiki. For example, if you have this song, only half of the lyrics are displayed on the page. You have to press the arrow in the downright corner to get the other half.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 17:28, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Ah ok thanks for telling me, hopefully I can remember to double check next time for the full lyrics :'D -Raine

can someone please take Zephyr-P off this page? http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Zephyr-P_songs_list?veaction=edit i dont go by this name anymore and havent for almost two years

REVOLVEREdit
Hi RainySkye,

I saw you removing an English translation from this page. The translation seems to be official, they appear in description of LUZ's YT video which was uploaded at the same time as Luka version.

Nefere (talk) 21:23, December 20, 2016 (UTC)

It's okay :) Btw I found an article on producer's blog about their and LUZ's collaboration in the song (I can't find anything about a translator though :/)

Nefere (talk) 21:47, December 20, 2016 (UTC)

月を探してEdit
I was about to add a finished page for this song! Can I add the lyrics, links etc. to your created page? I don't want to waste my time I spent on writing romaji.

Thanks for understanding! :) Nefere (talk) 21:19, December 23, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, go ahead. I usually don't transcribe romaji myself anymore so that's all it needs along with the formating/spacing out i think ~Raine

Thanks! I'll take care for the page. Nefere (talk) 21:25, December 23, 2016 (UTC)

Making pagesEdit
Hello,

First of all, Happy New Year!

Secondly, I would like to direct you to the Song Article Guideline again. You've been making pages for quite some time now, but the pages you make always contain formatting mistakes which need to be fixed by someone else. It's not really a problem if you sometimes forget to add something, but that is not really the case here. For example, when making a table, the top row should contain "{| style="width:100%"", and not just "{|". Also, when ending a stanza, one should use the " " code and not just add a blank field. Some of the pages you make tend to miss whole parts of the lyrics for some reason. And the pages where romaji is added to the title often have to be renamed because the capitalization isn't correct (when adding a Japanese song, all romanized words should be capitalized except the particles (no, de, ni, wa, ect.)).

It might be an idea to start using the Source editor instead of the Classic rich-text editor (you can switch between them on the top right corner of the editor), because the formatting mistakes are easier to spot in the source editor and it forces you to check how the page looks before publishing anything, which makes it easier to pick out any mistakes that might have been made. It might also be an idea to start using a personal sandbox, so that you (or someone else) can filter out mistakes (or add romaji) before publishing the page.

I'm sorry for the long message, but I tried to keep it as brief as possible. I'm not trying to sound rude (and I hope I don't), but I thought it needed to be addressed considering you make a lot of pages every day. I'm also not trying to discourage you from making pages; I just wanted to point out some mistakes you often seem to make when making pages. I hope you understand. If you have any questions/need help, don't be afraid to message me. I would be glad to help out.

Thank you for reading this message and have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 12:22, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

yeah i'll try it out, hopefully the html won't be too bad, i've had problems with that before (and random popups in attempting to edit too) Tho if it still ends up being  a lot of trouble i'll stick to English pages more than JP/other languages :'D~Raine

Thank you =). If you ever need help, don't be afraid to message me ^^.

Amandelen (talk) 14:06, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re: EpilepsyEdit
Hey RainySkye,

I think it would be better to add a warning in the description instead of adding the epilepsy template. The warning on the video isn't for epilepsy after all, but for dizziness.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 13:00, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Clockwork-PEdit
Oh, I see. The -P suffix usually isn't used for groups so I assumed they were one person. Thanks for telling me.

Seramyu (talk) 00:23, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism Edit
Hey ! Thanks, I blocked them !

Rachinaf (talk) 12:39, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

All those Korean songs!Edit
Thanks for giving me all those links! And yes, I was already on top of finishing up the new demo for UNI when you sent me the message xDD I'm so excited for her, I couldn't help it! Thanks for the SeeU song link though, it's very nice- I'll try and get it done if I can! CCyclone (talk) 04:31, January 26, 2017 (UTC)CCyclone

Re: errorEdit
Hello,

When I tried to make the page it said that the title "sounded inappropriate". I have gotten this message before and it basically means that wikia won't accept that title for a page for whatever reason. I'm not sure what extension hookshave to do with it though. Anyway, I made a page called "lostweight" and that seems to work so I'll just use the DISPLAYTITLE template on it and that should work.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 20:57, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

Re: 월화연휘가Edit
Ahh! You beat me to it xD I'll get on it right away <3

I've got about seven or so songs I'll be trying to transcribe tonight!! CCyclone (talk) 23:42, February 14, 2017 (UTC)CCyclone

WIP templateEdit
Hey,

Please don't forget to add the WIP template to pages without romaji, this makes it easier for user to find them and add the romaji.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 10:08, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

Oops never mind just noticed them. I apologize for the unnecessary message orz.

Amandelen (talk) 10:12, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

TranslationsEdit
Hello,

When a song has a translation (for example this one) could you type it out yourself? I get that you can't make/don't feel comfortable with making romaji and I don't want to sound rude, but it would be nice if you at least tried to finish the page as much as possible so that other contributors don't have to type out a translation on top of also making romaji.

Thank you for reading this message.

Amandelen (talk) 18:23, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

ThanksEdit
Ok, thank you. Becuase I was happy Star Night Snow got accepted into Vocaloid Lyrics Wikia, but was stunned to see Spam Jack about to get rejected. I thought to myself "How is this possible????? Like, this is an official vocaloid song from a famous song artist!". Plus, The Planetarium I Created at the Last Moment has a Romaji title for it's page, so that's why I first named my first created page here "Suta Naito Sunou". I don't mind at all your editing the pages I created, because I'm desperate to know the meaning behind these songs (in English that is).Bettydude100 (talk) 01:47, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Learning How To Make RomajiEdit
Hey RainySkye,

You've been making a lot of Japanese song pages recently. It's good that you are contributing so much, however, it would be better if the pages that you contribute are actually finished pages instead of half-finished pages. So it's a good idea to start learning how to make romaji. There are a lot of sources out there that can help you with this: I think the best way to go about it if for you to just publish pages with proofread romaji and a WIP template. I will double-check the romaji and filter out any other mistakes you might have made (which will lessen every time you practice, so after a few months, maybe even weeks, I probably won't have to check it anymore). Then you can compare the two edits by clicking the arrow down and selecting history, selecting my edit and the edit directly under my edit, and clicking "compare selected revisions". You can make note of any mistakes you made and apply what you have learned from it to the next song page you will make. I know you've added romaji to the pages you made in the past (although I'm not sure if you proofread it), and that someone told you to stop. In case someone asks you to stop again, you can explain the situation or direct them to me, in which case I will explain the situation.
 * First of all, machine translators. Machine-made transliterations contain many mistakes, so it's not good to add machine transliterated romaji without checking it. However, if you proofread the romaji and filter out the mistakes (this requires you to listen to the song), the romaji should be okay. For example, I use machine-transliterated romaji as a base so that I do not have to type out all the romaji myself (because the machine translator that I use does get the correct kanji-reading 80% of the time). By listening to the song and checking for mistakes, I filter out those mistakes and get (mostly) correct romaji. So, in conclusion, like is written in the Song Article Guideline: Many online "Japanese to romanization" converters are very inaccurate and don't line up with the lyrics that is sung. Therefore it is important to proofread what you get.
 * Another great help with making romaji are online dictionaries. I mostly use wikitionary, which lists multiple readings for one kanji. For example, 空 has a lot of different readings. One song might use the reading "sora", while another one might use "kuu". You can pick out which reading it is when listening to the song. Another dictionary I use is yomikatawa, which is really handy for compounds. If you want to know how "駅前" is read, you can put it in the search bar and get the romaji. It is important to note that the romaji is a bit weird, so the best thing to do is to get the hiragana above it (in this case "えきまえ") and get the romaji from that.
 * There's also one tricky thing that I want to tell you about, and that is ō. Machine translators often romanize things that read as "ou" and "oo" with "ō". You can differentiate the two by looking at online dictionaries. If you have the word "遠く", which you would romanize as "tooku", the hiragana reads as "とおく". This "お" in the middle is romanized as "o", and this is how you know you have to romanize it as "tooku" and not "touku". If you had to romanize it as "touku", it would have read as "とうく". The "う" in the middle is romanized as "u", which is why you would get "touku". If you don't want to bother differentiating the two, you could also just leave the ō and don't write it out.
 * This guide by Damesukekun and the Song Article Guideline also contain many tips on how to make correct romaji, so these might also help you out too.

Now, you might be asking yourself why I want you to learn how to make romaji. The thing is, someone has to finish those pages and that person is more often than not me. I feel like I don't really have a choice in the matter of finishing the pages or not, because if I don't finish the pages, we will have a large amount of unfinished pages in no time, which is not really a good thing if you want to built a wiki. Because often nobody else finishes the pages, I feel obligated to do it. This has been causing me a lot of stress as of late, and it's starting to wear me down. If you learn to make romaji, you learn something new, you won't be dependant on others any more to finish your pages, I will be less stressed, and the wiki will probably grow faster.

Of course, you might not want to learn how to make romaji for whatever reason. That is fine too, however, if this is the case, I urge you to completely stop making Japanese song pages or scale it down to a manageable level (which means less than five Japanese songs pages a day).

Before ending this message, I want to make one thing clear: I am not angry with you at all. I just see it as a problem that we have so many unfinished pages as of late, and want to work towards a solution.

I apologise for the long message. Please leave a small message under mine (a small "okay, I'll try to learn how to make romaji" or something like that will do if you don't feel like responding to everything I've said). Thank you for reading this message. I hope you have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 11:43, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much. If you need any help with the romaji or anything else, feel free to ask me =).

Amandelen (talk) 15:14, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Rainy, just having a look through The Udon Song, and I can see a lot of errors in the romaji. It's good that you're interested in doing this, but you need to get a better grasp of the Japanese language to do it properly. There's an awful lot of mistakes for someone to clean up, some of them occurring more than once ...
 * そうだ sou da "that's right" is usually taken as two words, even though it's a common expression
 * おうどん o is an honorific prefix, so you would write it as o-udon
 * 食べよお tabeyoo "I'll eat, let's eat" is just writing 食べよう phonetically, possibly to represent a subtle difference in emphasis, so it's one word, not two words
 * たまんない tamannai "unbearable" is a colloquialism for たまらない so again it's one word, not two
 * ちゅ is romanized chu, not chiu
 * 間だ ma da is two words, not two
 * 傍 is soba "next to", not soban
 * しちゃお shichao "let's do it" is a colloquial contraction for してしまおう, so it's one word
 * おかわり okawari "seconds" is one word
 * 食べちゃおう tabechaou "I'll eat it all up" is one word, a colloquial contraction for 食べてしまおう

I don't know if you're using automatic tools but they're of limited value because of (1) the complexity of the Japanese writing system, (2) songwriters' use of poetic licence, (3) the presence of ruby, which they sometimes neglect to add to the text, and (4) colloquialisms like in this song. Unfortunately, you really need to learn Japanese to do it properly.

ElectricRaichu (talk) 05:02, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

KR Uni Edit
Hi~ I'm pretty new but I keep seeing you edit the korean songs and I wanted to ask if it's okay to add new Uni songs and translate them. I'm a native korean speaker. There a lot of Uni songs that are out there that aren't here so I'm looking forward to bringing them here if I'm allowed/approved for the translations ^ ^ ~Mumo

Re: 73.79.27.124Edit
Hello,

I guess they kind of are. I'll remove them for that reason. Thank you for notifying me.

Amandelen (talk) 19:28, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Japanese song pages (again)Edit
Hello,

Please don't add songs with Japanese lyrics that needs to be transcribed (like SWEET♥WONDER and Stjärna). It takes a lot of time to transcribe the lyrics, and if you are unable to do it yourself you probably shouldn't add them in the first place.

Also, could you cut back on the Japanese song pages again? You said that you would cut down on Japanese pages and start focusing on English ones again, but on average you're still making at least five Japanese ones a day :/ (and that's counting from when you said you would focus on English pages not counting the ones with Hazuki no Yume's translations). It's fine that you want to contribute so much, I even want to encourage it, but right now it's at the expense of other contributors (because they have to finish your pages), and that should stop. Maybe it would be smart to just do pages where you feel confident enough to transcribe the romaji or where the romaji is already available.

Amandelen (talk) 13:10, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

EDIT: I just noticed you didn't make Festival 0-2: The Mundane Girl or Festival 0-1: The Irresponsible News, so I removed them from the small list. Sorry about that.

ミクオーレのうたEdit
Hello,

I've removed the pages for ミクオーレのうた because it's a cover of this song (with the same lyrics, just a different name) and does not meet any of the criteria listed in the Song Article Guideline.

Amandelen (talk) 19:57, April 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Robo-PEdit
Thank you for notifying me. I've deleted the page and the image (as it was only used on that page).

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 19:29, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

優しい一日になれたなら Edit
I happened to do the romaji for this song for my own website so I added it to here too. I also renamed it to 優しい一日になれたなら (Yasashii Ichinichi ni Nareta Nara) to follow naming conventions. I removed the WIP but maybe you should check to make sure I haven't missed anything. ElectricRaichu (talk) 04:53, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Hello RainySkye,

I was about to upload the album cover for my second album, but when I went to do so, imagine my surprise to see you had literally just uploaded it yourself 26 minutes prior. I'm not sure if you are an admin and that is OK, or if I should post it myself (I do have a higher res copy) for it to be recognized as my piece.

FYI - my daughter's name is Raine.

Regards,

Vagenda (talk) 20:09, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Re: 210.195.1.176Edit
Thank you for telling me and reverting their edits. I've blocked them.

Amandelen (talk) 08:52, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Hello,

Thank you for telling me. They seem to have undone the edit themselves, so I think it was more of an accident than vandalism. As such, I didn't block them.

Amandelen (talk) 07:15, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

TakaokatoshiyaEdit
Hello,

Please keep in mind that if you make pages for songs by this producer, that they always make a Japanese and English version of their songs. The Japanese version is the first link in the description (it even says: "Original song in Japanese is here. 日本語原曲はこちら. "). Both should be added to the page.

Amandelen (talk) 09:53, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

見た目のガラス (Mitame no Glass)Edit
Hey,

The uploader of this video has reprinted this video without properly crediting the author. They seem to have taken the lyrics from here (considering the out-of-place "English"). Anyway, since this song already has a page, I've removed the page that you made.

Amandelen (talk) 12:15, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

Hello,a lot of never worldEdit
Hello,

I removed the page for Hello,a lot of never world because the song does not have any lyrics at all (not even humming or "lala"). The translation by Hazuki no Yume is for the text on the video. I hope you understand.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 19:53, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Japanese song pages (3) Edit
Hello Raine,

Amandelen tried to explain you why you should do less (or stop) doing japanese pages without romaji. You did 4 (5 but let's say "Paradigm Traveller" doesn't need that much romaji). Please remember that's putting some works on others editors shoulders like Amandelen and me.

It's hard to say this because you help us so much, but it's kind of annoying to have to fiish someone else's page... If you want, I could help you find sites where the romaji is reliable (there's Hazuki no Yume, too).

Have a good day !

Rachinaf (talk) 11:25, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Japanese song pages (4)Edit
Hello,

I told you this before (see "Japanese song pages (again)") but could you please not make pages for songs where the Japanese lyrics is on the video but not in the description (see FIN. and 変わってないよ、変わらないよ (Kawattenai yo, Kawaranai yo))? As I already said, it takes a lot of time to transcribe that, and if you can't do that yourself you probably shouldn't be making pages for those songs in the first place as it is putting work on the shoulders of other editors like Rachinaf and me.

It's really good that you contribute a lot and help out so much, but you should really start aiming to finish your own pages as much as you can instead of leaving large chunks up to other editors.

Amandelen (talk) 13:56, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

動物世界Edit
Hello,

I removed the page you made for the song 動物世界 because it's a cover song (翻唱曲 means "cover song", 原創曲 means "original song") and doesn't meet any of the criteria listed in the Song Article Guideline.

Amandelen (talk) 08:19, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Japanese song pages (5)Edit
Hello,

You've been told this a lot of time, so I will keep this message short: Please stop doing Japanese song pages if you don't plan on finishing the romaji. You know by doing it you're putting work on the shoulders of other editors, so please stop doing it.

Amandelen (talk) 09:28, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

WIP TemplatesEdit
Hey RainySkye,

Please don't forgot to add WIP templates to the pages which you make romaji for. While you are getting better, there are still mistakes in the romaji and thus it needs to be checked.

Thank you!

Amandelen (talk) 08:52, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Wow, what? Thank you very much! Edit
Hello, this is Chia-P (ChiaAkiyama)! I was figuring out how Google rendered my username and noticed some of my songs were uploaded to this Wikia! I came to give thanks, sign up and stop by! I suppose I'll be posting new information about my tracks here in addition to where I was posting before. Feel free to add any of my tracks to this Wikia (or any other site) if I happen not to get around to it! Again, thanks for adding the articles!

Chia-P (talk) 08:01, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

StopEdit
Hello,

Please do not make pages for songs unless you have the lyrics of the song in the language that it is sung in. I tried to figure out what Luka was saying in Stop, but it's honestly almost impossible because the Japanese doesn't always seem to line up with the English lyrics and the English lyrics is often grammatically wrong to begin with :/. It's good that you want contribute a lot, but you should make sure that the lyrics to the song you add are actually there or are at least rather easy to figure out.

EDIT: I realized that my first message sounded a bit rude (although that was not my intention, I apologize), so I changed it a bit.

Amandelen (talk) 10:20, August 3, 2017 (UTC)

CarefulEdit
Hey,

Careful is actually a remix/cover of this song, so I deleted the page.

I hope you understand. Have a nice day!

Amandelen (talk) 20:07, August 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Song Article GuidelinesEdit
Thanks for the information and I'm sorry for any trouble I might have caused.

NayruBlue (talk) 13:58, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

Massakasamaa Edit
I moved まっさかさまー(Massakasama) to まっさかさまー(Massakasamaa) because the title ends in a long a. BTW half way down there's a line まっさかサマー？ with romaji Massaka saa? Could you check which one is wrong (the romaji more than likely)? ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:32, August 18, 2017 (UTC)

Re: vnanePEdit
Thank you for asking VnaneP about the translation! I've corrected it on the page.

Amandelen (talk) 19:39, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

Too much pagesEdit
Hey,

You've heard this before so I'll keep it brief, but please keep in mind that the Japanese song pages that you made need to be double-checked and that the Romaja on Korean pages needs to be made from scratch because automatic romanizators for Korean are not reliable at all. You shouldn't put too much weight on the shoulders of other contributors, so please try to keep it down to a manageable level (3-4 a day tops, especially if you make Korean pages).

Thank you for reading this message. Have a nice day!

Amandelen (talk) 11:05, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, i'll try to not make as many korean pages~Raine

Re: Infinity/QualiaEdit
Hello,

If it's a remake of a song, it should be on the same page, even if the title is different (see Human/Powapowa-P).

I have also created the redirect.

Amandelen (talk) 14:48, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Edelweiss/CoxalEdit
Those should also have a disambiguation page, yes. I'll make one in a minute. Thank you for telling me about Coxal. I've warned them about it before, so I've blocked her for repeated vandalism. Have a nice day!

Amandelen (talk) 15:29, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

またいつか歌える時まで君に叫ぶだろうEdit
Hello,

I've removed the page you made for this song since it already has a page here (which you also made, by the way).

Also, I've already said this on my own talk page, but thank you for telling me about anon 110.54.160.177. I've blocked them for vandalism.

Amandelen (talk) 10:42, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Re: shimaEdit
I've named the category s_shima_dr because that's their name on piapro. I've also added a notice on Shima's category so that they're less likely to be confused.

Amandelen (talk) 16:12, September 15, 2017 (UTC)

dzuEdit
Hello,

Dzu is not the correct way to romanize づ as it's supposed to be zu. It's a mistake that you always seem to make with romaji, so I thought it'd be best to tell you about it. Could you change any "dzu" you get in the romaji to "zu" from now on?

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 18:07, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

I wouldn't say it's incorrect, it just depends what the romaji is for. If it's to indicate Japanese spelling, then dzu is correct. However, I think that the purpose of our romaji here is to help people follow the pronunciation of the lyrics, not the spelling, in which case zu is the right way to do it. Similarly with wo vs o. ElectricRaichu (talk) 22:28, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Delusion GirlEdit
Hello,

Thank you for telling me. I've locked up the page and send them a warning.

Amandelen (talk) 19:41, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah you're right I've blocked them. Amandelen (talk) 06:54, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re: re:FRESH ST＠RT!Edit
Hello,

I've added the tabber and part of the new lyrics (since they were basically just the old lyrics). I hope this helps.

Amandelen (talk) 19:21, October 6, 2017 (UTC)

i am working on

http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Vocaloid_Wiki:ProducerWIP/Seabaud

and want to update the song list

http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Seabud_songs_list

i dont know how to update the producer name in the song list?

Jeongyeon1996 (talk) 05:31, October 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Regarding one of Perma Frost's Vocaloid songs Edit
Apologies! I thought that the song that I assumed was their first Vocaloid song was really their first Vocaloid song. Thanks for correcting.

Pinkgirl234 Talk page13:21, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

Active translators Edit
Hey, RainySkye. I've got a few questions: Pinkgirl234 Talk page02:08, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Do you know of any recommended and neutral translators who are still currently active in translating Vocaloid songs?
 * 2) Do you know if Hazuki no Yume still makes translations in her website?
 * Thanks for responding! I'll check that link you provided from time to time. ^.^
 * Pinkgirl234 Talk page02:40, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to message you on here, but you reverted my translation of http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%AE%87_(U) ? I was the one who translated it and added the English lyircs.

Ryxe (talk) 21:29, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

(How are you supposed to know when someone leaves a message on your talk page for the record? I just noticed what you said but I didn't get a notification for it at all for some reason. Wiki sites are really confusing to navigate...)

Ah, alright, thank you for answering I guess, but I'm confused. Does this mean you won't be putting my translation up at all, and if you do, it won't get credited to me? I spent a lot of time translating it, so I'd appreciate credit for it if it's going to be used anywhere.

Ryxe (talk) 21:37, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

(I still am not getting notified of your messages, aha. I don't know why it won't notify me.)

Thank you so much for clarifying! That makes a lot more sense to me now / clears up my confusion. Hope you have a good day!

Ryxe (talk) 22:56, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I'm still kind of new to editing pages on wikia but yeah I'll be sure to add in the lyrics to Mayday! I'm sorry if my edits are making things difficult btw, I hope they're not. If they are I'm sorry!

Zansatsu (talk) 04:10, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

If you have a native speaker there to translate, why aren't you guys translating some of these songs then? I'm just curious. I really want to know what the lyrics are to this song / have known this song for years and have yet to see a translation for it? And does Damesukekun not have any other constructive criticism for me than that? It's a bit vague, and doesn't help me improve at all.

Ryxe (talk) 05:08, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

(I don't mean to spam your talk page or anything but I did want to add on that I appreciate you letting me know / communicating with me about all this. I have also actually talked to other people to try to get them to help me, but nobody ever does. It's why I really want to know what this song is saying.)

Ryxe (talk) 05:13, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

(Oh hey, the wiki still isn't notifying about you commenting me but I just saw what you had to say and wow, thank you so much for the link to Damesukekun's articles/translation-related notes. That's actually really, really helpful! I'm bookmarking this link to give it a more thorough read-through when I'm less tired, but I do appreciate you pointing me in the right direction. It helps a lot! Thank you so much for your time/patience and help. I hope you have a fantastic day!)

Ryxe (talk) 05:21, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Koi no Melody Edit
Done! 👌

And sorry for the long response. I'm a bit busy in RL. xD mahalisyarifuddin talk 11:37, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

Korean song pagesEdit
Hello! So I've noticed you've been making some Korean pages recently, for UNI, and while it's great that you're helping out, there are several errors in the lyrics that I've noticed. It's been going on for a few weeks now, and every time I've corrected lyrics, I've left a link to the proper romanization. I'm not sure if you caught those links or not, so I figured I'd come to you directly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revised_Romanization_of_Korean <- Please reference this when you're writing the romaja! There's a really helpful chart at the bottom that you should use! I still go back and check it every now and then when I'm not sure.

And if you have any questions about Korean or romanizing it, please let me know! I'd be more than happy to help! It's really nice having someone else to help with pages; just make sure you make them accurately! (And if you know of anyone else who's making pages with wonky lyrics, feel free to give them this wiki link too!) ;; CCyclone (talk) 04:29, October 30, 2017 (UTC)CCyclone

-- If you could do both, actually, that would be very helpful! I'd appreciate the links to WIP pages and to songs that don't have lyrics listed. I typically transcribe all the Korean pages when I have the time, so it's really helpful when you send me the links.

Thanks :) talk

My Dear TOKOTOKO Edit
Hi! I noticed you took down my translation becuase you said that there is a strict policy on the translators you allow, and I understnad that. I also read though that page beforehand and saw that the translator that I took the tranlation from is on the list of recommened translators. I was just wondering what the reason was that it was taken down so that I don't repeat the same thing in the future. Thanks!

Ownitlikeaboss (talk) 06:13, November 18, 2017 (UTC) Ownitlikeaboss

I did put the link at the bottom of the page after editing it, but I'll put the link here as well. https://novakiaki.tumblr.com/post/167612718061/my-dear-tokotoko-feat-hatsune-miku-here-is-a

Ownitlikeaboss (talk) 06:23, November 18, 2017 (UTC)

It was no trouble! Thank you for getting it sorted out! :D

Ownitlikeaboss (talk) 06:28, November 18, 2017 (UTC)

Re: yukkeEdit
I've added the English lyrics. Thank you for transcribing them!

Amandelen (talk) 08:34, November 18, 2017 (UTC)

Japanese pagesEdit
Hey,

Could you cut it down a bit with the Japanese pages again? I like your enthusiasm, but please remember that someone (more often that not me) has to check them. Could you please try to limit yourself to 4-5 Japanese pages a day? That would make things a lot easier. Keep up the good work with the English/Spanish pages though.

Thank you for your consideration. Have a nice day =). Amandelen (talk) 10:30, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

Oh I actually just meant the pages for which you make romaji yourself. If the romaji is already made by the producer themselves they don't have to be checked by ear, so it's really easy to correct them. I really don't mind those specific Japanese pages with producer-made romaji, so make as much of them as you want. Just be sure to watch the amount of pages with self-made romaji you make, and I'll be very grateful.

Thank you for your reply. Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 08:40, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

Villager BEdit
Hey,

Could you maybe add the remaining romaji to Murabito Sono Ni and to Boukanshataru Yuen? Then I can check them.

Thank you for reading this message. Have a nice day! Amandelen (talk) 15:57, November 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * EDIT: added a link to this page.
 * Oops my bad. Thank you for adding the romaji anyway! I'll be more cautious in the future. Amandelen (talk) 18:11, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Project UIEdit
Thank you for notifying me. I've combined the two pages and the two categories. I've also blocked the anon who vandalised the Hibikase page. Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 11:00, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

Re: BlankEdit
Hello,

Those are always really tricky. I did a bit of testing to see what would work and this is the best I could come up with which also preserves the title in some way ("「 」" is the title given in the video).

Amandelen (talk) 22:22, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

On this page:

http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Vagenda

the new songs I'm adding are not populating here. What am I doing wrong? I haven't been able to figure it out.

Thanks,

Vagenda (talk) 05:35, December 26, 2017 (UTC)Vagenda

Dear... Edit
Hi Rainy, I added a song Dear... by KOTARO but there's a bit of maintenance to do. I've added it to the disambiguationpage, but there's another song with the name dear... which needs to be renamed and KOTARO is a new composer. I actually don't have the time to do this right now, so can you do it? If you can't, don't worry, just let me know and I can try to fix it tomorrow. But if you can it would be a great help. ElectricRaichu (talk) 08:34, December 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for budding in, but I've already fixed it (^^)b. Amandelen (talk) 18:14, December 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks both of you. Niconico was still down so I didn't have the view count but fortunately it's back up now. ElectricRaichu (talk) 23:38, December 27, 2017 (UTC)

=Re: Akari= Hello,

Thank you for telling me. Her Voiceroid has been released, and since her voice sounds different from her demo's I'm assuming the Voiceroid version of Akari was used (also there is no mention of a demo version of Akari or a released VOCALOID version of Akari on VOCALOID wiki, so I'm assuming her VOCALOID version isn't out yet).

Amandelen (talk) 15:03, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re: VandalismEdit
I agree with you on the iNSaNiTY page and the p ghosty boo pages. I'll lock them up soon. Thank you for the suggestions! Amandelen (talk) 18:47, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

Re: our eyes meetEdit
Thank you for telling me. However, the Japanese lyrics are not missing at that part, they're just written as romaji as can be seen on the video, so that's how they end up on the page. Thank you for typing out the lyrics to YOUR EYES. I've added them to the page.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 10:45, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Your AnxietyEdit
Hey,

A quick explanation on my reasoning behind the removal of "Your Anxiety": The songs in the spin-off category only features songs which are spin-offs from other VOCALOID songs (it's in the description of the category). Your Anxiety isn't based on a VOCALOID song, so it doesn't really fit there. That would leave the category covers, but it doesn't meet those requirements either. Just thought I'd let you know. Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 23:23, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * That's true, but I think in all those cases it's a soundtrack which didn't have music before (which are allowed according to the Song Article Guideline). Please correct me if I'm wrong, though. Amandelen (talk) 10:41, January 14, 2018 (UTC)

Hello! I would like to talk about the translation restrictions on works and the specific policies in place for translations to be added.

Is there any way I can specifically view these policies? Thanks!

Bustyournutdust (talk) 20:55, January 22, 2018 (UTC)

Re: snownoiseP songEdit
Hello,

I unfortunately can't find the translation either. I think it's privated on Optical Popcorn's channel but I don't have a link. I've added "partial" to the translation credits. Amandelen (talk) 08:49, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

COMO ESTAS?Edit
Hey,

Quick note. The song which you last added already has a page here so I've removed it. Just thought I'd let you know.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 21:35, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Star 3Edit
I've removed the redirect. Amandelen (talk) 09:14, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

City BoyEdit
Hey,

It wasn't really apparent from the title of the song, but "City Boy" is a cover song. It unfortunately doesn't fit any of the criteria in the Song Article Guideline, so that's why I've removed the page. I hope you understand.

Have a nice day =).

Amandelen (talk) 09:44, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

晴天Up!Edit
Hello,

晴天Up! already has a page here so I removed your version. Same goes for 不適切淑女. Just thought I'd let you know. Have a nice day =). Amandelen (talk) 20:55, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

Video Descriptions from NiconicoEdit
Hey RainySkye,

I see you've been adding descriptions from Niconico to pages, but English translations on Niconico can be added by anyone and there doesn't seem to be any quality control. Please be careful when adding them because some are mistranslated. If you aren't sure it's correct, it's better to not add it.

Seramyu (talk) 18:49, February 8, 2018 (UTC) do so on my current talk page.'''